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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-02-05 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #4415 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4415 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-02-06 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
I was never into the EU, but I can see how this is disappointing. I can't think of another franchise where something like that happened, where the closest thing to canon for years gets disregarded by new installments of the original media firmat directly continuing the originals. The closest thing might be when comics universes re-boot themselves. Doctor Who had novels and audios between the old and new series, but I don't think the new show wipes all that away and they are just additional adventures to be slotted in wherever (they involve lots of different Doctors, so they never did just continue the end of the original show). I don't think Star Trek novels were ever cohesive enough to form their own branch of canon before the movies started.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-06 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
With comic books (or at least with the Big 2 comic book universes), there's usually extremely involved and complex in-universe stories told to justify retcons and explain away apparent discrepancies in cannon.

With Doctor Who, the books (and audio dramas) are canon - they explicitly reference stuff from them in the new TV series. But there's a ton of contradictory material in Doctor Who canon, and there's a lot of things in the books that people just chose to ignore (*cough* Lungbarrow *cough*). Also, there's stories from the books and audios that they basically retell (most obviously Human Nature). So the idea of a cohesive Doctor Who canon is just not something that's really possible anyway.

With Star Trek, the books are explicitly not canon (except possibly the early James Blish novels, I can't remember off the top of my head). But there's also the Star Trek animated series, which had a bunch of preposterous things like the Enterprise meeting Satan and stuff like that, so they're not canon. Except for one specific episode about Spock's childhood that they made canon because everyone thought it was really good.

so, basically: canon is sort of a silly and complicated idea that people mostly make up as they go along

(Anonymous) 2019-02-06 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
With Doctor Who, there's also the in-universe explanation that multiple, contradictory events can be explained (hand-waved) by the Time War.