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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-02-10 03:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #4420 ]


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(Anonymous) 2019-02-11 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
FO4 is pretty good as far as I'm concerned. Not great. But solid. It has some moments for sure. What didn't jive with me at all is that the "roleplaying" felt so much more... constrained? Very Mass Effect-y. I guess the way I'd say it is like... instead of it feeling like a blank slate "you" character like the other iterations of FO, it felt like this was an already fully-formed character that you could just sort of nudge in one direction or another? And I really didn't feel like it worked with Fallout's world and lore.

Also, I'm not going to lie, the entire plot with your kid was hackneyed and pretty dumb. It went for "emotional" a few times and just... missed the boat so, so hard on it.

That said, some of the characters are truly great, and a lot of the subplots had some oomph to them. I liked the base-building a lot. There were definitely good things.

I will never forgive them for not letting you get with Nick Valentine, though. Come on, you're gonna let me smash an actual Ghoul but I can't make out with a perfectly good synth??

(Anonymous) 2019-02-11 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, I'm with you on most of this. I loved FO3 - and while FO4 is more constrained (and I have my bitches with it), I do love the overall gameplay. I hate how Bethesda always assumes you wanna be a bad guy, but that is rather consistent with all their games, really.

I may draw some hate myself, but I'm wary of trying 76 (for a wide variety of reasons) and I despised NV. It was depressing, not half as rich in storyline - and the main story felt rushed. But I can get while people loved it...I just DIDN'T. Between the bugs, the scattered elements of inventorying and gathering people - it felt like someone's idea of a Fallout game more than an actual FO game.

But that made FO4 (for all of its errors and Fails) more refreshing for me. The characters were interesting and engaging and while the plot has its own headdesk moments, I enjoy getting characters like Valentine.

Psst, you can get Valentine as a vanilla romance with a mod at Bethesda.net. Just so you know. And it works in the with game quite well!!

(Anonymous) 2019-02-11 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
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No hate here, but I do definitely disagree with you re: NV. I think the fact that it was depressing was kind of the point-- it's post-apocalyptia, after all, in a place that had already been difficult to sustain life without modern conveniences. I'll agree that the storyline is much more... vague, I suppose, than either 3 or 4, but that suited it. You weren't a hero, you weren't a scion from a vault, you were just trying to do a job and got mixed up in a ton of crazy bullshit in the meantime. The struggle was the storyline, and I loved that. Plus I vastly preferred how it handled reputation over karma, that just made more sense to me.

Plus, I mean. Arcade Gannon. Arcade Gannon! The only character to ever convince me to play through at least once as a guy. I can agree readily enough that there were probably too many characters in NV overall, but the ones that you could get closest to were truly stellar. Boone, Raul, and Lily were all stand-out. And man, I love to hate Benny. What a skeeze.

Ahaha, I'm sorry, I'm rambling mostly because NV is my favorite of the series, but I did like a lot of what 4 did. Including making Deathclaws even scarier somehow? Like holy shit.

(I'm super happy to hear about Valentine, though! I'll have to check that out. My save data's all on PS4 though, lol.)

(Anonymous) 2019-02-11 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
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Oh, and I forgot to mention, 76 is garbage. Don't even bother. It fucks established lore in half in the first ten minutes and then everything just keeps going downhill from there.