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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-02-13 06:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #4423 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4423 ⌋

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[personal profile] hey_hey_hey 2019-02-13 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
People's tastes and perceptions change. It happens to a lot of folks.
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[personal profile] numb3r_5ev3n 2019-02-14 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
So much this. I am horribly squicked by things I wrote 15-20 years ago. I still have nightmares about the possibility an ex friend even showed my fic to the creator of the thing I was writing fic for to this day.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-13 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait -- Harry/Sirius grosses you out because of incest? Is this because the they're like, cousins 37-times removed or something? I hope not, because allegedly all the British wizarding families are slightly related and all the muggleborns have a wizard in their family tree somewhere, so that pretty much means that the only characters with any screentime who aren't vaguely related to anyone else are Fleur, Viktor and Madame Maxime.

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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-02-14 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Incest doesn't have to be biological. Sirius is a father figure. Sirius views Harry as his son.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-14 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Nothing in the books really supports that, but it sure is an opinion and it's yours.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-02-14 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Okay? I don't think it is outright incest per say. But I think it is right on the line, and it does hit my squick.
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[personal profile] ibbity 2019-02-14 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Doesn't Dumbledore say to Harry that (? someone? people in general? himself?) could see that he was beginning to relate to Sirius as "a combination of father and older brother," in terms of Sirius' role in his life? Like, that is an actual specific quote I remember very clearly. I think it was from OotP, possibly after Sirius dies.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-14 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
It's very heavily implied. What books did you read?

(Anonymous) 2019-02-14 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
"Nothing"?! Did you...actually read the books?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-02 12:57 pm (UTC)(link)
"It's incest if I say it looks like incest" is the anti battlecry that's made fandom insufferable on Tumblr.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-13 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you mean age gap? Because Harry/Sirius isn't incest.

I mean, I guess you could argue that godfather/godson is a paternal relationship, but I'm not sure that alone would do it for someone with an incest kink because there's no blood relation. But I guess it might be enough to squick someone with an incest squick.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-14 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, if Sirius and Harry had actually had time to develop their relationship into something more familial, I'd be willing to claim incest on moral grounds. But Sirius was more of a cool friend/mentor to Harry than a parent, and Harry was Sirius' dead best friend's son that he wanted to do right by.

Now, I'm squicked by the relationship because of the age difference, and because any attraction that Sirius had to Harry would have been based on his being a substitute for James. Which isn't incest, but I don't like it.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-02-14 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know if I'd call it outright incest. But it does toe the line in ways that personally hit my squick. If nothing else, Sirius does seem to view Harry as his son.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-14 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Most of the time, Sirius seems to view Harry as James 2.0, and occasionally as James 1.0.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-15 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Not really, Molly Weasley.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-14 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
There's like a whole page at the beginning of book 4, I think, about Harry wishing he had a parent to talk to about his problems, and then he delightedly realizes he has sirius now, and immediately dashes off a letter to him.

You can believe the relationship was underdeveloped or not care and ship it anyway, but it is 100% textual canon that Harry thinks of Sirius in a parental capacity.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-14 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Godparental.
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[personal profile] ibbity 2019-02-14 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
This is technically true but I know what they mean...even if it isn't actually a "family" relationship in terms of blood or legality (? unless godparent is a role with legal standing under wizard-law), there are relationships that feel like family and so it gives that squicky feeling to think about them turning sexual.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-14 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
I'm just imagining Harry turning to the camera to make it explicitly clear that he's treating Sirius as a mentor in a specifically godparental role that's totally dissimilar to a parental role

(Anonymous) 2019-02-14 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I /hate/ age gap parings with a burning passion, but I get where you come from with shipping people for their looks alone.
Honestly, I could never imagine shipping any 'problematic' parings though;;

(Anonymous) 2019-02-14 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
I still ship like this. I'll ship my fave with any character if the dynamic is good. Never liked incest ships though.
I shipped Harry/Sirius a little bit, before th 4th book came out. I noticed that, like I, many people also stopped shipping them around that time, judging by the Comm activity.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-14 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
It Harry wasn't really Harry but a stand-up for you, then not everything that might have been inappropriate about Harry/Character would really apply, in your mind.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-14 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
great point tbh