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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-02-13 06:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #4423 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4423 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-02-14 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Except that going over someone's head in order to achieve the outcome that they don't want because you think is best for them, even if it is in their best interest, is a textbook definition of controlling. If we're only allowed to call people controlling if they're solely doing it to fuck with you, there's a whole lot of people who owe their parents and exes an apology.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-14 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
She's 13. That is the kind of thing 13 year olds do. Harry seeing it as a betrayal is also something a 13 year old would do. You can't say that they are going to be the exact same as they are at 13 for the rest of their lives.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-14 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
That's not quite where I'm trying to draw the line - the point is not that Hermione thinks that what she's doing is in Harry's best interests. The point is that we know that what Hermione is doing is actually in Harry's best interests, and Harry is actually being very stupid by not agreeing with her in the first place, given the information available at the time and even more so in hindsight. I don't think it's controlling to do something to keep someone out of immediate moral peril.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-14 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
If you rob someone of their own free choice, then yes, you are being controlling of them. You can argue that it's for the good, but the point remains that you are robbing them of the chance to make that choice for themselves.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-14 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
I accept that there's some literal sense in which that's true, but I don't think that it matches up well with the connotative sense of the word, the sense in which it's synonymous with being domineering or manipulative, and I don't think it's an example of Hermione being unreasonable or doing anything wrong.