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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-02-16 02:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #4426 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4426 ⌋

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Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make

(Anonymous) 2019-02-17 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Have you actually played the new game though or are you basing this all on second hand accounts? Because I've seen multiple points of contention that are all but impossible to confirm unless you actually can read Japanese because the situation is so context dependent. Like I've heard both that Erica in one of the alt endings got over her dysphoria and didn't transition or that it's just her pre-transition but since her life circumstances differed she hasn't had the opportunity to transition but still views herself as female. There's no way for me to know what's actually the case until I play the game myself, so it's very frustrating to me that so many people are jumping the gun on a game they haven't even played or can understand, especially when fan mistranslation has been a serious issue with JP -> ENG fandom drama.

Spoilers for Catherine Full Body

(Anonymous) 2019-02-17 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
I've watched the videos and I have a pretty good grasp on the Japanese language, and while some people are exaggerating how bad it is, it's still... pretty bad. Yes, there's no indication of how long after C goes back to "fix" Vincent's life that their wedding happens, but it's reasonable to assume that it's bringing them back to their canon ages just through the earlier context that Toby didn't meet Erica until well after she'd transitioned in the original timeline, meaning that in this new timeline, Erica is still trans (implies that she's a girl) but now she is closeted. Now, granted, it's possible that the timeline on their meeting changed too, but without any other information, there's no reason to assume that either.

Also, there's the entire thing with Rin. Which is handled... better (I'm even willing to look past Vincent smacking her hand away in surprise when she tries to touch him after he finds out she has a penis), but there's still some jokes with her that simply don't need to exist. Not to mention the fact that making yet another trans girl an "other" to the point of her being an actual alien.

I don't know, like... it's not throwing out slurs and it's not aggressively anti-trans I suppose, but it's a death of a thousand paper cuts sort of thing, you know? Erica and Rin are both treated as weird and as jokes and things to be fixed instead of just... people.