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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-02-21 05:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #4431 ]


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(Anonymous) 2019-02-21 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Meanwhile I have trouble reading M/F even though I'm a straight female because, I think to some extent , I don't want to be the girl. I have too many negative connotations with the idea that I don't want to sort through while reading fic/while in fandom. Unfortunately certain writers can give M/M or F/F ships the sort of dynamic I find uncomfortable in M/F fics too so I'm not really safe from it...but I guess I can understand the feeling of being alienated because of that. Oh well.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-21 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
SA
Something must have gone wrong with heterosexuality that so many women hate to see themselves represented in fictional romance.

Well, the shit we see in media certainly doesn't help...

(Anonymous) 2019-02-21 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Well, it didn't go universally wrong because there's still plenty of heterosexual women who enjoy heterosexual romance.

I wonder what makes some heterosexual women enjoy it and others hate it.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-21 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, wording it like this is bound to ruffle some feathers, but...yeah? This isn't exactly a hot take. It's just not so much heterosexuality that's "gone wrong" so much as its societal views, attitudes, and behaviors towards women that have been wrong for a very, very long time.

I like het fiction well enough, myself, but I certainly understand why some women prefer to avoid it.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-21 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Well... no. The romance genre is and has been thriving and is dominated by het romance.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-23 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
EXACTLY. I hate when people forget that the romance genre makes literally BILLIONS of dollars every year churning out new books/movies for folks to consume

(Anonymous) 2019-02-21 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
no it's mostly just fandom that has this opinion, given the success of things like Twilight and 50 SOG i think it's safe to say that plenty of women find fictional het romances perfectly appealing.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-22 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT—I’m fine with a lot of het romances in fandom, but Twilight was boring-to-cringey, 50 Shades was awful and I never even finished the first one, and most romances I can think of that are marketed as Romance rather than “fantasy/sci-fi (my preferred genres) with a romance subplot” also range from boring to awful, at least for me.

Reading most romance novels makes me feel like I’m reading yet another AU fanfic of an original show I’ve never seen about Feisty Notlikeothergirls the free-spirited beauty and Broody McHandsomeLoner the commanding, masterful lover. Bad fanfic sometimes turns het ships I like into Feisty/Broody, but the reason I like my fandom het ships is because they’re generally not that.

So even women in fandom who like fictional het romances may not like Romance as a genre, because they find the genre conventions off-putting.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-22 09:31 am (UTC)(link)
So even women in fandom who like fictional het romances may not like Romance as a genre, because they find the genre conventions off-putting.

DA - This one thousand percent describes me. Thank you.
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[personal profile] dahli 2019-02-22 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
Well, M/F in fiction is pretty rampant in media, while M/M or F/F romance is as rare as unicorns humping in the meadows. It makes sense for it to be more represented in fandoms because it simply doesn't exist in pop media. At least we're seeing a small change when it comes to F/F romance getting a tiny bit more represented, but it's still like a 1% in a sea where heterosexual romance is the default.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-02-22 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Yes! M/F ship seems to be only written one way. At least with M/M and F/F I can imagine myself as either person. It is harder for me to imagine myself as the man in a M/F ship even though the way they are written, the role the guy plays usually ends up being more relatable to me.