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[ SECRET POST #4431 ]

⌈ Secret Post #4431 ⌋

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I'm a straight gal who just can't get into M/M ships because my brain just goes "wait, which one is me? which one's the girl???" so I mostly read M/F or F/F. Weirdly lesbian fic works for me even though I can't see _myself_ ever dating a woman.

IDK, to each their own. Just a reminder that people like me exist. I often feel alienated because of it.

Meanwhile I have trouble reading M/F even though I'm a straight female because, I think to some extent , I don't want to be the girl. I have too many negative connotations with the idea that I don't want to sort through while reading fic/while in fandom. Unfortunately certain writers can give M/M or F/F ships the sort of dynamic I find uncomfortable in M/F fics too so I'm not really safe from it...but I guess I can understand the feeling of being alienated because of that. Oh well.

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Something must have gone wrong with heterosexuality that so many women hate to see themselves represented in fictional romance.

Well, the shit we see in media certainly doesn't help...

DA

Well, it didn't go universally wrong because there's still plenty of heterosexual women who enjoy heterosexual romance.

I wonder what makes some heterosexual women enjoy it and others hate it.

I mean, wording it like this is bound to ruffle some feathers, but...yeah? This isn't exactly a hot take. It's just not so much heterosexuality that's "gone wrong" so much as its societal views, attitudes, and behaviors towards women that have been wrong for a very, very long time.

I like het fiction well enough, myself, but I certainly understand why some women prefer to avoid it.

Well... no. The romance genre is and has been thriving and is dominated by het romance.

EXACTLY. I hate when people forget that the romance genre makes literally BILLIONS of dollars every year churning out new books/movies for folks to consume

no it's mostly just fandom that has this opinion, given the success of things like Twilight and 50 SOG i think it's safe to say that plenty of women find fictional het romances perfectly appealing.

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Well, M/F in fiction is pretty rampant in media, while M/M or F/F romance is as rare as unicorns humping in the meadows. It makes sense for it to be more represented in fandoms because it simply doesn't exist in pop media. At least we're seeing a small change when it comes to F/F romance getting a tiny bit more represented, but it's still like a 1% in a sea where heterosexual romance is the default.

Yes! M/F ship seems to be only written one way. At least with M/M and F/F I can imagine myself as either person. It is harder for me to imagine myself as the man in a M/F ship even though the way they are written, the role the guy plays usually ends up being more relatable to me.

For me, I'm a lesbian who hates m/f and ONLY likes m/m or f/f because I *don't* want to be forced to relate to one of the characters. lol

It's awesome how diverse and beautiful we are in what we wank to.

You're a lesbian but... you don't relate to f/f?

I can relate to whichever I want. I'm not forced to "be" one of them.

See, I just find the entire concept of imagining myself as one of the characters in a ship to be weird. I like the ship because I like the characters in the ship and think they have good chemistry together, I have zero desire to be personally involved in it. M/M, M/F, F/F, it's all good if the characters are into each other because that's the part I find hot.

This. Not to say I don't have my own little fantasies involving celebrity/character crushes, but that's an entirely separate thing. When I'm reading fic about a particular ship, I'm focusing on the characters involved and nothing else.

Exactly. I have plenty of my own self-insert fantasies with characters, but when I'm reading fic, it's all about the characters in the fic. I read plenty of fic for characters I'm not sexually attracted to in the slightest because the idea of them being attracted to EACH OTHER is what's hot to me.

Same, but I also don't like a lot of M/F tropes so I tend to read a lot of M/M and F/F. Not solely, but mostly.

Same. It's the relationship between the characters that I'm interested in, not using them as a mental meat-suit.

same, and i honestly find it boggling, i'm into my ships because i love the characters and their relationship, not because i want to imagine myself as one of them?

I wouldn't say that I imagine myself as the characters I ship, but there's usually a strong element of seeing aspects of myself in the characters and identifying with them to some extent and getting some kind of vicarious reaction from it.

+1

Yeah, this is how I am too. None of the characters are stand-ins for me, in any gender configuration. In pairings I really love, there are different things I relate to in each one of the characters (so I guess if I'm "in it" at all, it's like different aspects of me shipped with each other, I suppose. Self-love!)

But a big part of the point of fiction is that...these characters are different people. Who are not me. Who do things (andThey're interesting because they're

I love love love writing smutty fic, but I'm not imagining myself as any of the characters. I'm the narrator. I'm the camera person. I'm a voyeuristic demigod who just likes to watch.

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Whoops, edit fail.

Should have said. "But a big part of the point of fiction is that...these characters are different people. Who are not me. Who do things (and people) I never would personally. They're interesting because they're other people whose lives and thoughts and sometimes desires are so very unlike mine."

I never imagine myself as the characters, and I don't need to be personally attracted to the characters, but I need to be very attracted to the dynamic between the characters.

When it comes to f/f I'm just not attracted to the dynamic between the characters, even when it's a really good dynamic. F/f's great, but my libido's just not into it.

So very much this. Why would I be into replacing out one of the characters when it's the two of them together I ship?

This!

I find it weird when people have to imagine themselves in a scenario. Knew someone who claimed to be bi but fangirled over just 1 male character, was obsessed with talking about breasts, and couldn't stand m/m fic because there was no vaginas involved.

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