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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-02-24 02:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #4434 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4434 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Good Place]


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[Taskmaster]


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[The Umbrella Academy, "We Only See Each Other at Weddings and Funerals"]


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[Criminal Minds S04E15, "Zoe's Reprise"]


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[FBI (2018)]


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[Cameron Britton playing Ed Kemper in Mindhunter]











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Re: Worst/weirdest takes you've seen

(Anonymous) 2019-02-25 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
I ... actually agree with this, though I winced a bit because it's blunter than I would have phrased it. It is fairly clear in IM1/IM2 particularly that Tony grew up a) with an ideal of patriotic bloodshed, given Howard's WWII experiences and worship of Cap, plus his own involvement in the military/arms business from childhood up, and b) without any direct experience of actual bloodshed himself. So he's perfectly fine with some vague nebulous idea of people, even civilians, dying by his weapons somewhere foreign in what he'd consider legitimate wars, right up until he has to watch somebody get blown up by one right beside him. Then he gets tortured himself, giving him a much broader and more in-depth appreciation for pain and mutilation and long-term disability resulting from weapon injuries. Then he realises that his fellow prisoner, the man helping him and keeping him alive, had family die essentially by Tony's oblivious hands, and helped him anyway. And then he learns that Obie's been selling things under the table willy-nilly without his knowledge, and the idea of a 'legitimate war' gets shot out from under him as well (though I think it's to his credit that he'd already shut down weapons by then, that even before he learned about Obie the experience of violence alone was enough to convince him that even 'legitimate' wars weren't enough of an excuse).

So ... yeah. The thing he didn't know was that Obie was selling his weapons to terrorist organisations, which he did take badly. He probably did know, intellectually, that civilians were dying by his weapons all along. It just didn't really mean anything until he had to witness it personally. Which was why everything about Yinsen struck him as hard as it did, and why he's spent his whole life since that moment trying to make up for it.