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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-09-10 04:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #614 ]


⌈ Secret Post #614 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: #179

[identity profile] elyssadc.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
So you're going to apologize for calling me asshole?

No. You acted like an asshole. But you improved, so thanks for that.

Peter has been handled horribly in the second season. He is too powerful, and the writers cannot seem to think of a way to limit his powers - at least they couldn't in season 2.

Agreed completely. Peter's entire storyline in S2 was incredibly weak and I think they definitely wrote themselves into a corner with respect to his powers and his character. He needs limits or he becomes even more uninteresting. You are also correct that the amnesia storyline was ridiculous because they didn't even follow their own internal logic with respect to how his powers worked. I think a large part of the problem was in removing Peter from the rest of the Petrellis. His power, and his entire character, are really only workable within the framework of the family dynamics. The manipulations of Angela and the emotional entanglement of Nathan's expectations for him. Without that, he's a Gary Stu or a cypher. They tried to replace that foil with Adam but it didn't work, it merely made Peter look more gullible than he already did. With Nathan, he becomes interesting because you can see the man he was forced to become both because of his brother's expectations and despite them.

The problem with Nathan is mostly that he's had a perfectly moving and touching death scene at the end of Season 1, but they brought him back so he could do - nothing. I did not get the impression that he properly dealt with his sins... He was brought back because of his popularity.

I can't argue that. But I am one of the people who would have stopped watching had they killed off Nathan because none of the other characters are remotely as interesting to me. Adrian Pasdar is one of the best actors on the show and it would have done an immense disservice to both Angela and Peter's characters to have Nathan gone. It's the push and pull of that family dynamic that interests me. Without Nathan, season two would have been even MORE dismal than it already was. They proved that they could not handle characters with less competent actors, and that they couldn't think of ways to integrate new characters into the existing universe (ie. Monica, Maya, Alejandro, West, etc). So, I am more than willing to sacrifice some of the potential of the idea (what Heroes could have been), to get more quality from what they can actually deliver.

Of course this is all, ymmv. But that wasn't the point of the secret. Apparently you read a lot more into my response than was actually there. As I am not in the fandom, I don't know what the wars are. I am, however, in plenty of other fandoms and should have known better than to think ANY response wouldn't get obnoxious responses. Oh well. At least it resulted in one interesting conversation.