[ SECRET POST #4446 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4446 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[tabaqui]

I found her incredibly tedious, yes. BUT.
She was drugged, brainwashed, 'influenced' in a way that she couldn't resist, and told repeatedly and with absolute conviction that she was useless, not special, utterly nothing. FOR YEARS.

I wasn't happy with 'i found out what happened and now i'm going to end the world' thing at all, but - she never would have had that violent and overwhelming break if Luther hadn't locked her up.

I think your vitrol at her is a bit much.

[(Anonymous)]

She was murdering women before all of that.

[(Anonymous)]

She was a CHILD, ffs.

[(Anonymous)]

I am sure that will console all those dead women. :/

[(Anonymous)]

Blame Reginald for that, not the literal child. She was what, four? Five, tops? It was an accident. Kids have tantrums.

[tabaqui]

Murdering women?

[(Anonymous)]

She murdered at least 3 nannies for trying to get her to eat breakfast. That is why a robot nanny was created (who she tried to murder).

[tabaqui]

Oh! Okay. I'd forgotten about that.

I think....small child, incredible power, psycho 'father' who isn't doing a single thing to help her control or deal with the power and instead is encouraging it....

I don't really blame her like I would an adult for that.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, he didn't even try to do anything about it until it affected him personally, so it's definitely on him.

[(Anonymous)]

The "murdering nannies" thing is tricky, IMO, for a number of reasons.

Firstly, she's four when that is happening. Her sense of empathy is still forming, her sense of consequence is still forming, her sense of mortality is still forming - because she's four. Add to that, she's been raised by a "father" who encourages, conditions, and often demands her to use her abilities, and she's been taught that her powers are the only really valuable thing about her, so it makes sense that she whips them out whenever the fuck she feels like it. And when we look at Reginald's face in the "nannies" scene he doesn't seem to give a damn that she's killing people, beyond frustration that he can't control her. He certainly doesn't appear to be teaching her that throwing people out of windows is a very bad thing to do.

Secondly, the tone of that scene was aggravatingly silly, and thus I find it hard to know how to factor it into the overall narrative. Certainly what Vanya was doing was very serious, yet the scene itself was basically played for laughs. I really hated that scene, actually, because it's just so tonally inarticulate. Like, if it were a dark-af scene that was using bouncy pop music to make the darkness of it more unnerving, that would be fine, but it's not. It just feels like a total throw-away scene that's mainly about addressing why the mom exists and also is there for lols??? Except no??? It should be a big deal. It should be a dark scene that the present day narrative needs to address in a serious way. But instead it's like, NANNIES OUT THE WINDOW! WOOP THERE THEY GO! LOL!

As a viewer, I don't know what I'm supposed to do with that.

[(Anonymous)]

A four year old isn't capable of understanding the concept of law, let alone actively choosing to murder; particularly a four year old that's been basically abused since birth (along with the rest of them). That's on Reginald, tbh.
(Especially since he intervenes when she busts his monocle, like this is his concern here, his own safety. The nannies lives meant nothing to him, and he was reinforcing this to her by repeatedly reinacting the oatmeal test.)
I mean, the scene we see with them all as older children has Luther, Allison, Diego and Ben (iirc, we don't see Klaus, and Five disarms the guy, but doesn't kill him?) killing bank robbers, with only Ben even so much as pausing; but I wouldn't consider any of them murderers, they literally know nothing else than what they're taught.

[greenvelvetcake]

It's like how I can't blame Allison for rumoring Vanya into forgetting she had powers. Allison was maybe 4 at the time and didn't understand the consequences.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. It's the one rumor that I think she shouldn't be held responsible for.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

If you think being locked in a soundproof undergound vault from your childhood nightmares, begging and screaming for help while your siblings stand outside and watch, doesn't lead to a snap of some kind, idk what to tell you.

[tabaqui]

Right?

[nightscale]

Pretty much.

I didn't love her, and I was sympathetic to an extent, but jfc Luther locking her up really did not help things in any way shape or form, especially because he made it seem like he was going to take her in and then bam, knocks her out in a way that's got to be absolutely terrifying while she's already scared as shit(and upset because of what she did to Allison).

Also that's a sound-deprivation chamber, those things are supposed to be hellish to experience and she was locked up in one of those for months(years?) when she was four. And then had her memories re-written, but no big I guess??

Reginald is the real bad guy in all of this, but to say she wasn't horribly fucked up with the rest of them is false. The point is that they all are, because dear old daddy was a goddamn maniac.

[tabaqui]

Exactly. She had less ways to 'cope' because she started from a place of mental and emotional abuse; at least the other kids had the distraction of being 'special' and 'saving the world'.

But yes - they were all fucked up.