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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-03-08 05:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #4446 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4446 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Do you mean the Leonard thing? I don’t think she is at fault for getting close to someone like him. It wasn’t a smart move, but that’s not to say she deserved to get manipulated.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT - no, though she really should have listened when Alison told her he was shady. I more meant, like... she wants to be a more successful violinist? She wants first seat? But she doesn't turn up to rehersal on time??? Come on!

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
I had assumed that Vanya got first seat in the end more because she went off the meds = could feel emotions more deeply = could put more emotions into her playing (instead of being technically skilled but emotionally flat) than whether or not she was tardy tbh.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
You recall the position of first seat only opened up because the original first seat violinist was murdered by Stalker McBoringFace? Not that I necessarily disagree with your point about going off the meds leading to an improvement in her skills, but the position was only available because, y'know, sudden violent death.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
she wants to be a more successful violinist? She wants first seat? But she doesn't turn up to rehersal on time???

She was only late once that we saw. And some weird shit was going on it her life. I mean, even the fact that her father just died should've been enough to make her instructor lay off her about it. If she's late all the time, that's different, but given how sorry she is and how she's busting her ass to get there, she seems like she takes class seriously and isn't usually late.

Plus, she tells the first chair that she's been "hacking at the runs" in their music for weeks. Those aren't the words of someone who isn't putting in the effort. And when the first chair asks her how many years she's been "stuck at first chair" she says three years, which is apparently a lot longer than most of the others. That, to me, suggests she's a very diligent worker, since most people in her position who kept watching other people get promoted over them, would probably have quite by then. If anything I think the show is telling us that Vanya works harder than most at her music, but doesn't have as much progress to show for it. Which, for Vanya, feels like the story of her entire life in a mundane little nutshell.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
Reading your last paragraph gave me so much Vanya feels ;o;
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[personal profile] rivia 2019-03-09 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
idk the way that the orchestra reacted with such an incredible amount of disdain when vanya was late gave me the impression that it was a regular occurrence? everyone in that auditorium was being OTT with their reactions, the conductor was RUDE AS HELL tbh.


i kind of don't like that whole "wow once she stopped taking her medications she felt so much better and her creative endeavors were so much better!" thing though just from that shitty "being sad makes you more creative/make better art!" narrative especially regarding medication, like i don't think that's what they were trying to say, but that's what i was getting from it, lol /tangent

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair she had been on meds since what, age 4?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 08:10 am (UTC)(link)
everyone in that auditorium was being OTT with their reactions, the conductor was RUDE AS HELL tbh.

This is true, but I found it hard to tell whether it was supposed to be a "Vanya's always showing up harried and late" thing or a "Everybody looks down on Vanya--when they notice her at all" thing. But because Violin seems to be the one thing Vanya really cares about in her life, and because the narrative goes out of its way to show her practicing all the time, and because of the things she says to the first chair, I choose to go with the latter explanation of that scene.

i kind of don't like that whole "wow once she stopped taking her medications she felt so much better and her creative endeavors were so much better!" thing though just from that shitty "being sad makes you more creative/make better art!" narrative

If I thought her meds were anti-depressants I might agree with you. But I presume her meds are...some weird, special drug that's supposed to keep her dulled and suppressed in some way, to minimize the risk of her accidentally discovering her powers.
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[personal profile] rivia 2019-03-09 04:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean.... yeah? It's not literally her being forced off anti-depressants, it's the combination of Vanya having everything dulled on medication and off the medication being much more successful creatively, etc. That reminds me a lot of that misconception regarding mental health, drugs, and creativity, and I fully admit, admit as someone who is on antidepressants, it's something I'm sensitive to.
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2019-03-09 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
You must not have siblings - if my estranged sister whom I hadn't seen in years showed up and started to dictate my love life and bossing me around, I would go hard the other way. Especially when the sister tends to the controlling side, literally.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I really don't get the 'well she should have listened to Allison when she said he was shady!'

Dude she and Allison BARELY know each other and Allison met him for like... five minutes? I mean, she was right, but there was no basis in her opinion at the time that made us as the audience believe she had a valid reason for being right.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-09 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, I was really frustrated with her insistence on sticking her head in the sane about Leonard. That said, I think it's fairly understandable, too. Vanya's just really fucked up, for reasons that aren't at all her fault, and Leonard preys on her, which works because she's abused and vulnerable and horribly lonely and has very little sense of self-worth - all due to what other people have done to her. It's actually a bit surprising she's as able to argue against his manipulation at all.