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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-03-14 05:17 pm

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philstar22: (Default)

Re: What legal things would you make illegal?

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-03-14 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Because FGM causes life-long pain and inability to experience sexual pleasure. Male circumcision removes the foreskin and has negligible future effect. Totally different things, and I think comparing them is ridiculous.

I'm against circumcision. I think it is wrong. I don't think doing such a think without a child's consent is a good thing. But circumcision is such an essential part of the Jewish faith that I don't feel comfortable telling them they can't do it. And at that point, I don't thin you can say okay for Jewish people, not okay for other religions, even though it is essential for Jews in a way it isn't for other faiths.

But then again, I'v changed my on this several times. I'm not entirely sold. I'm just uncomfortable telling someone who sees it as so important to their faith that they can't when the harm caused is so negligible. It is a balancing act to me, and in this case I think that I think it tilts on the side of religion.
kaijinscendre: (alec AAAAAYYYY)

Re: What legal things would you make illegal?

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2019-03-14 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Not all FGM causes life long pain or inability to experience sexual pleasure. Are you okay with ones that don't being performed?

Male circumcision kills babies every year. That doesn't even account for botched ones. Not super negligible for those children who are mutilated by parents.
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Re: What legal things would you make illegal?

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-03-14 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
It kills babies? I did not know that. Yes, okay, going to have to do some more research, but probably agree with you then.
kaijinscendre: (alec AAAAAYYYY)

Re: What legal things would you make illegal?

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2019-03-14 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, on average 100 boys a year are killed by it.

Then you also have tragedies like David Reimer. https://slate.com/technology/2004/06/why-did-david-reimer-commit-suicide.html
philstar22: (Default)

Re: What legal things would you make illegal?

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-03-14 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, wow. Okay, I officially agree with you. Should be illegal unless medically necessary.

Re: What legal things would you make illegal?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-14 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel terrible for the guy every time I see this story but a scammy surgeon named Dr. Money is so on the nose

Re: What legal things would you make illegal?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-14 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it religiously necessary to do it while the person is an infant?
Could they not opt-in to do it later as a legal adult if they want to?

Genuine question. I don't know much about the rules.
philstar22: (Default)

Re: What legal things would you make illegal?

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-03-14 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
My understanding is that it is meant to be done at a certain age. People who later join the faith can do it to themselves later, but Jewish parents are supposed to do it to their infants.

That being said, someone just informed me that it can kill. Which I didn't know. So I'm taking back what I said. Should be illegal.