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⌈ Secret Post #4462 ⌋

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Meanwhile, Marvel cuts their gay scenes out (Valkyrie in BP, Valkyrie in ragnarok) and nobody bats an eye. But Rowling makes one of the only mainstream film series with a major gay character in it, and she's a homophobe because it isn't blatant enough.

Fandom doesn't give a single solitary fuck about queer women, news at 11.

I don't know where you're looking in fandom but people in my circles are very aware of, and very very critical of, Marvel and Star Wars doing the "gay according to Word-of-God but not according to text" dance

It's certainly not as mainstream as all the scorn Rowling is getting.

The difference is that (A) the Dumbledore stuff is consistently in the news because she's trying to navigate making a new series about Dumbledore and Grindelwald's relationship and having to dance around justifying how it's gay but isn't going to be depicted unambiguously in the movies and (B) she also says a lot of other stuff about canon, like the thing about wizards shitting, that people laugh at.

I doubt it's because of the stupid poop thing Pottermore tweeted, since LeFou got the same type of backlash for not being gay enough either. Apparently a small amount of representation is worse than no representation.

Plus, it's funny how Rowling can reveal extra details and backstories not in her books about all her other characters with no fuss, like how McGonnagall fell in love with a muggle who is later killed by death eaters, but when it's about two men being intimate then she's just being silly.

The LeFou thing seems like a bad comparison, because wasn't the controversy there that Disney hyped up that it was actually in the movie itself, and then it was a whole lot of nothing?

Also it seems weird to say that fandom is too mad about Rowling talking about gay men, in the same thread where everyone else is saying that fandom isn't mad enough about lesbians

They didn't hype it up, the gay director mentioned it in an interview with a gay magazine because he was excited, while emphasizing it was a small scene, and it blew up from there.

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(Anonymous) - 2019-03-24 22:38 (UTC) - Expand

The LeFou thing was shit.

nayrt but yeah, this. Rowling's a conspicuous creator and spokesperson for the Harry Potter universe and receives a LOT of attention because of her past tweeted additions to the canon. MCU doesn't have that spokesperson/creator to the same degree, and hasn't built up the momentum like Rowling has, particularly on the issue of who's gay, etc.

Well yeah, they don't care about lesbians. The MCU fandom would be out for blood if they cut out men being gay.

Nobody cared about Korg's sexuality being ignored in the movie when he was in love with a man in the comics

Nobody cared about Korg ~~'s sexuality being ignored in the movie when he was in love with a man in the comics~~

FTFY

Korg owned

Because:
1) Marvel consists of a lot of creators and people in charge of the franchise and therefore it makes it difficult to hold who accountable for what when agenda varies from cast and director to between movies.

And most importantly:
2) Marvel never claimed to be woke like JKR is. No one gives a shit because marvel isn’t asking for ass pats for being progressive unlike JKR who opens her mouth to let out ever abject thought she has into the twitter sphere and if you criticize her for it you get blocked. Add in the Depp controversy and it gets even worse.

Wasn't it recently shown that Heard was abusing Depp?

with the supposed evidence coming from a stan twitter

Is that what we are calling court cases?

it’s what we’re calling his lie that she cut off his finger when two years ago there’s reciepts he did it to himself and his stans are distorting the truth.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3741910/Photo-Johnny-Depp-s-ghastly-finger-cut-tip-fit-rage-wrote-blood-wall-Amber-Heard-affair-Billy-Bob-Thornton.html

even if you want to take the “they both abused each other/both are pieces of shit” moral high ground there’s no excuse for why someone as “feminist” as JKR defended a wife beater when plenty of evidence was provided of him being abusive towards her.

Re: TW finger dismemberment

(Anonymous) - 2019-03-25 00:37 (UTC) - Expand

There's evidence that Heard was abusing Depp but it's still entirely possible that one, both, or neither of them were abusive in the relationship

How is JKR talking about her characters or answering fan questions asking for ass pats?

retconning nagini to be a subservient eastern Asian woman, her “There’s at least one Jewish student at Hogwarts” answer, “hermione COULD be black even though I never wrote her that way,”, “dumbledore is gay,” all information she feels the need to reveal outside of the universe and wants diversity points without actually doing the work. It’s the laziest form of my progressiveness is pasted on yay!! It’s incredibly transparent.

She was asked if there were Jewish students, she said there were. She didn't ask for cookies about it. Plus, the two female leads in the Fantastic Beasts series are Jewish women, so she's clearly making an effort to include more representation.

She was just defending the Cursed Child casting, she was basically saying Hermione being black didn't change her character. She wasn't saying "I wrote her as black all this time!"

She was asked if Dumbledore had been in love, she gave an answer. Plus, the subtext was already there in the book.

She's talked about being excited about the Nagini reveal, but I don't think she's ever acted like it was a big move for progressiveness. I also don't know when Nagini has ever been subservient.

Exactly.

"I knew all along that Nagini was in fact an Indonesian woman who's cursed to become a snake! Aren't you excited to see this Asian woman who's eventually going to befriend Voldemort and get milked on his orders make an appearance in this movie where her only role is to be a sad circus act and Credence's friend who is sad that he's joining Grindlewald? I know I am!"

"Queenie is Jewish and she was a great character in the 1st movie, so wait guess what! She's going to become such an idiot in love that she joins Grindlewald even though she's a mindreader by birth and her sister was almost executed by him back in New York!"

Grindelwald is an Occlumens so Queenie wouldn't be able to read his mind.

And there are three movies left, Nagini's story has only gotten started.