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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-09-15 04:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #619 ]


⌈ Secret Post #619 ⌋

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[identity profile] dracothelizard.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
114: What do their shirts say?

169: So, you're complaining about Rachel's role, yet your ideal version of The Dark Knight involves Fox, Gordon and maybe Alfred teaming up to save the world? Stop being such a hypocrit.

Also, Rachel was just there to be fought over? Whatever. The Joker was only there to give Batman conflict and to be defeated. Gordon, Fox and Alfred were only there to support Batman. Harvey was only there to provide conflict and to be supportive. If you break each character down to their basics, they are all 'only there' for Batman. It's what the writers added to them that makes them interesting as characters.

172: I don't get how anyone could ship it in the first place. Seriously, they don't meet until the last part of season two, and then Zuko does the whole betraying thing, so she feels tricked and there is a serious lack of trust. She does not forgive Zuko or even like him until halfway season three. All this time, Aang has been kind, a good friend and on her side, and was clearly besotted with her. Was anyone REALLY shocked that the hero got the girl he had a crush through the entire series?

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(Anonymous) 2008-09-15 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Rachel was one of the three main characters. And the only female character with more than two lines.

Characters can be focused on the protagonist and still have their own shit going on. Dent was running a campaign to clean up the city. Fox had a lot going on for a minor character -- the man who threatens to "out" Wayne, his dealings with the Chinese businessman, his moral disagreement with Batman. It's sad that he had more to do than Rachel, who was so much more central to the story.

Of course all the subplots will ultimately come back to Batman in a movie like this. But all the male characters all had identities, motivations, actions that made them distinct and whole within the realm of the film.

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[identity profile] dracothelizard.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
"Rachel was one of the three main characters. And the only female character with more than two lines."

...Okay, I must've missed all the ads focusing on Rachel, then, because I only saw ads and trailers focusing on Batman, the Joker, and Harvey Dent.

Of course it would be nice to have more female characters or at least some who aren't involved in a romantic subplot, but I think it is slightly unnecessary to completely disregard Rachel's character.

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(Anonymous) 2008-09-15 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
oh and also...

So, you're complaining about Rachel's role, yet your ideal version of The Dark Knight involves Fox, Gordon and maybe Alfred teaming up to save the world? Stop being such a hypocrit.

It's my ideal version because those were the only three characters the film gave me a reason to care about. Which doesn't make me a hypocrite -- it makes the filmmakers incompetent.

Though to be fair, I should revise it to add, "Also, an alternate universe version of Rachel who is not dead and had something else going on in her life than being fought over by two men!"

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[identity profile] dracothelizard.livejournal.com 2008-09-16 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
Nice to know that Rachel is such an afterthought.

re: 114

(Anonymous) 2008-09-17 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
chase - don't blame me, blame my gender
kutner - doing things changes things
taub -be good, get good or give up
thirteen -everything has a reason
house - hope is for sissies
wilson - admit the past, deny the present
cuddy - don't trust opinions
cameron - something's something
foreman - bad mojo is not a diagnosis

hi-res here:
http://img179.imagevenue.com/get_code.php?loc=loc243&image=61826_Fox_01-Group-TShirts_0026_jwR_V7_wh_F_122_243lo.jpg

Re: re: 114

[identity profile] dracothelizard.livejournal.com 2008-09-17 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks!