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Early cause I gotta run and get books/class/etc ethgkjehtkgh

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I maintain that one can portray fluffy sex in a decidedly non-fluffy environment. I mean, an outstanding proportion of hurt/comfort fics take place in dungeons and jail cells, and much of h/c is fluff. Again, we may be operating with different definitions of "fluff", but I think the fact that the OP contrasts it with "hardcore" should say enough in that regard. In principle, it is no more distasteful than "Life is Beautiful", which is about a father trying to make life in a concentration camp seem like a game for his son. There are a number of laughs in that movie, but you never once forget the terrible circumstances that have brought them there.

Yeah, I think we must have different definitions.

Fluff for me means an absense of angst. It's hot-cocoa fic, a walk through the park with your lover, all the warm gooey enjoyment of romance without anything more emotionally painful going on than maybe some miscommunication. If that's going on in a concentration camp, while they are starving, hurt, terrified, then they aren't acting like people to me.

Now Hurt/Comfort would work. But Fluff? Not so much.

Ah, there we have it then. I mean, I agree with your definition in regards to calling a whole story "fluff", but the way the OP worded it made me think she was only referring to the sex, which I refer to as "fluff" whenever most of the focus is placed on the emotional over the physical (and 'hardcore' sex is the other way round)

But yeah, if she meant the whole story was fluff, I'd be right there with you. Or at the very least, mocking the OP for "HOLOCAUST FIC: UR DOIN IT RONG"

Yeah. And since I have some actual experience poking around (not on LJ but other places) with historical holocaust fics, my experience has been that slash goes over just fine -- but every single one of the fics has been sheer angst.

h/c is not fluff -- it's the opposite of fluff. Sweet and tender =/= fluff. Fluff = NOT SERIOUS.

Fluff = "A genre in which the story is devoid of angst and takes on a mood of light-hearted romance" according to wikipedia. (emphasis mine).

You can portray fluffy sex in a non-fluffy environment, but you will squick people if you do, because it will appear that you have no respect for the environment they are in. There are a large portion of people out there who can't take a concentration camp any way but seriously. Perhaps an amazing writer can manage their readers emotions well enough to get away with it, but I'm guessing the OP isn't that amazing.

Edited 2008-09-16 16:49 (UTC)

Again, I agree with that definition of fluff as applied to the whole story, but I don't think that's what the OP meant.

Also, considering how fluid and non-central fandom is, I don't put much stock in Wikipedia definitions.

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