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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-03-26 06:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #4464 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4464 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-03-27 10:23 am (UTC)(link)
This is my perspective as an outsider (i.e. someone who sees people angrily railing against sibling ships but who is pretty *shrug* about sibling ships):

I think a lot of fandom doesn't actually understand morality intuitively -- they understand morality only by accepting rules that are widely agreed to be correct and then cranking a handle on the rule to see what positions it derives. The anti-sibling-incest position arrives from cranking the handle on two rules that fandom generally accepts:

Rule 1: Incest is squicky = illegal = wrong = has real-life victims. (Conflation between all of these things.) Despite the weirdness of this position, societally, most people do agree to all parts of that statement.

Rule 2: Family relations are defined by choice: Adopted children/parents are real children/parents. Whether a child is adopted or biological should make zero difference in your evaluation of them; if you classify them as being of different "type" in any way, you are immoral. If you cut abusive parents from your life and find a new family, that family is real and legitimate and you owe nothing to your biological parents just because they conceived you. This position is more controversial in wider society, but if you're woke/socially aware (like fandom tends to be) this position is unquestionably right.

Because incest is defined by family relations, applying Rule 1 and Rule 2 derives the position that you must treat shipping people raised by siblings in the exact same way as you treat biological incest pairings. Any deviation is a sign of immorality.

The actual reasons / justification underlying the commonly accepted positions are irrelevant -- including considerations that DO depend on biological (and fictional!) aspects of the characters. All that matters is the Rules that fandom has accepted as correct and the stances 100% consistent with the Rules.

That's how I see it anyway. I view fandom as weirdly lacking an intuitive (maybe "empathy-based" might be a better term?) understanding of how morality works that they use accepted rules as crutches to intellectually construct a morality rather than rely on their own moral system to understand the root justifications of those rules.