[ SECRET POST #4466 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4466 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[fscom]

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[ninety6tears]

Even when there's no demand for it to appeal sexually to the person who's being critical? You can have opinions about style when it's a choice made for a fictional character. If a real person is comfortable dressing like Vanya for example that's none of my business, but nothing about Umbrella Academy makes me think there's an interesting reason for the way she dresses any more than there is for the robot mom wearing some kind of bullshit Hot Topic nurse costume. It feels like they made Vanya as unfeminine as possible to accentuate her low self-esteem.

I wear non-fitted/men's clothes all the time, but clothes that are too big I don't get. They're not warm.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't seen this canon at all, but if she has low self-esteem and wears huge baggy clothing ... that's actually fairly common, I think? Not to make her look more ugly (although I'll grant that could be the out-of-universe reason), but because big baggy clothes make it easier to feel like you're hiding. They're a defense. Also, if the self-esteem issue comes with anxiety, bigger, baggier clothes mean lots of fabric to twist/play with/tear when you're feeling uncomfortable. So there could be in-character reasons for those style choices.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, non-fitted/men's stuff I totally understand, because that can be comfortable. But stuff that's too big? It's just awkward and uncomfortable and all of that extra fabric gets in the way and you have to constantly adjust it to keep it from sliding around and ugh.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, tailored anything just looks better than non-tailored? I'm a lesbian and love ladies in suits, especially tailored ones, but baggy suits just don't flatter anyone--man or woman. And you can look androgynous with a tailored suit.

[(Anonymous)]

man, I want to disagree but I can see where you're coming from. sort of.

I'm a tailor by profession. it's my job to make people look good in their clothing. Most of that is fitting it to their body which includes things that most laypeople don't think about: length of torso, width of shoulders, length of arms, etc. It's not always about the curves or lack thereof. Suits and the like can look awful on a man-body as well because most guys just take an off-the-rack piece of shit suit that fits in the chest but not the waist, hip, shoulders, or arm.

So where I disagree with you is that "a fitted suit" or other non-traditionally-feminine piece of clothing, by virtue of the fact that it fits the body inside it, is meant to be sexualized. People look good when their clothing is comfortable and fits, but "good" doesn't have to mean "sexy." It can just mean that they're not drowning in the sleeves, or the waist isn't too tight over a pooch belly, or what have you. Clothing can be androgynous without being baggy and ill-fitting. Like, fuck me, I know clothing. And I also know that lesbians and genderqueer folks like to dress in nice tailored clothes that make their curves pop for them and not for the male gaze. So what if it's got darts that hug the hip nicely?

[(Anonymous)]

I’m not the OP, but I doubt OP assumes every RL woman in clothes that actually fit is trying to look sexy as opposed to just well-dressed.

I didn’t read their comment as assuming that a woman wearing a fitted suit was always meant to be sexy, just that it annoyed OP that people who praise female characters for (looking sexy by) wearing well-fitting but traditionally masculine clothing, but say female characters are ugly/slobs for wearing baggy sweats and an old hoodie, or a tshirt and cargo shorts, or whatever other unflattering, androgynous clothing combo, are doing the same thing guys do when they complain that character redesigns that are more than strategically placed straps and handkerchiefs ruin games/comics/movies for them.

I took a bunch of sewing and pattern design classes in college, but I was always scared to take tailoring, because the things that stopped me being good at sewing/drafting were that precision is absolutely not my strong suit(e) and also I’m bad at mentally picturing anything, much less finished garments. I wish I was good at it, because I’m shorter than most off the rack petite stuff is designed for (I can hand-hem in my sleep) and aside from the boobs I have a very Humpty-Dumpty torso.