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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-04-04 07:17 pm

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Re: Universal Basic Income

(Anonymous) 2019-04-05 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Do you work? Yes.

Would you work if you had it? No, but I'd volunteer.

What kind of job would you do? Probably something with helping shelter animals.

Re: Universal Basic Income

(Anonymous) 2019-04-05 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, so would everyone. If I didn't have to work, I'd also socialize homeless kittens all day, along with 60% of the population.

Pretty sure no one would volunteer for sewage duty.

Re: Universal Basic Income

(Anonymous) 2019-04-05 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I see the point you're attempting to make, but you're not really making it.

For example, things like sewage duty would continue to be a paid job, considering it's hazardous work.

Money is currently a motivator for people to work, obviously. But UBI of the type that Yang is proposing - aka $12,000/year - doesn't mean that money ceases to be a motivator. Money buys security, convenience, influence, and status. People aren't going to stop wanting those things any time soon.

I wouldn't stop working if I had to live on $12,000/year. I would stop working if I got $12,000/year on top of what I've already accumulated to live on. Then, I'd still continue to volunteer because having something to do is a way to stay mentally active, stay socially connected, and ideally helpful to myself and to society.

Re: Universal Basic Income

(Anonymous) 2019-04-05 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
SA

And the kind of helping shelter animals I was talking about wasn't necessarily playing with kitties, it would also involve cleaning a lot of poop, bathing dirty animals, cleaning out facilities, etc... so in a sense, yeah, I guess I was volunteering for sewage duty.

Re: Universal Basic Income

(Anonymous) 2019-04-05 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT—I wouldn’t volunteer for sewage duty (which means what exactly? Working at a wastewater treatment plant? Replacing pipes? Cleaning septic tanks?) because I’d be bad at it, but I have cleaned explosive diarrhea off bathroom walls in my current job, even though I didn’t have to, so that the public would have access to a bathroom. So in that sense, I’ve already volunteered for sewage duty many times.

Also, studies of UBI indicate that most people don’t quit their jobs when given extra money, and the ones that do most often are students and new mothers/parents.