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More in action than hard numbers

The amount of vacations?

Yearly family vacations. I feel like "comfortable" means you get to do those maybe once every few years, but upper middle can do one every summer if they want to.

Eh. We took two a year and we did them cheap. Lots of driving and staying with friends and distant relatives or in shitty motels. We definitely weren't upper middle class.

And my family is upper middle class and we took one vacation a year to a local beach, no flying or fancy hotels involved.

Maybe if by yearly family vacations you're talking, like, Disney World or trips overseas or something.

Family camping trips or road trips don't necessarily cost a lot, and there's a decent chunk of jobs that give enough PTO to manage a week-long trip every year without actually paying a whole lot.

lol, I was talking about this to coworkers the other day. Here's how I'd split it:

Poverty - surviving, but routinely not enough money to cover your needs
Lower class - enough to cover your needs, but if you lose your job it is an immediate looming emergency, there's no room to spare
Lower middle class - if you lose your job it's not an immediate emergency you do need to find a job quick, you can scrape by for a few weeks until you do
Comfortable middle class - if you lose your job you can survive a while if you downsize or sell things you own, like 3-6 months or something, but you'd still be out looking for work with some level of concern
Upper middle class - if you lose your job you can downsize a lot and probably go for a year or more if you need to, but you do still have to find another job eventually, but with more leeway regarding time
Upper class - you've accumulated enough so that you don't technically *have* to find a job to survive

So basically, "how tied are you to your job?" Someone who has an upper middle class lifestyle with a big house and multiple cars who is $300k in debt and would be immediately bankrupt if fired is not upper-middle class, they're poor people pursuing an upper class lifestyle they can't securely afford. Meanwhile, someone who has a million dollars in rental real estate or long-term investments and never needs to work but lives like a middle class person is still technically upper class

Tbh I don't think it's a super interesting thing to try to adjudicate, and I think it's a lot less meaningful than figuring out where the dividing line with "upper class" is. Which, obviously, does include probably a lot of people who would call themselves "upper middle class" but still.

Most of your family expects to go to college/has a college degree, but probably it involves student loan debt, vs being able to go to college without having to worry about loans/scholarships/etc. Also, if your family is middle class, you can replace, say, a broken washing machine without fretting too much; if your family is upper muddle class, you can do the same with a newish car.

(Idk how far off I am, my upbringing was weird and I had no idea how much my parents were worth until my dad lost his mind and spent everything on drugs. We got mistaken for homeless more than once, and my friends were definitely poor, but my parents owned a couple houses/rental properties outright.)

comfortable - so long as nothing breaks, you don't get cancer, and have no interest in remodeling/landscaping, you never have to ask yourself to choose between two major purchases, like "do I get a new couch or do I upgrade to a better dishwasher?" you never have to fret whether to drop a grand on a home repair. you can take a high-end vacation (Disney, a cruise) once in a while.

upper middle class - all of the above but with the caveat that if your car dies, you get cancer, want to remodel, or have a washing machine blow, you still aren't worried that you can't afford it. you also probably own an RV, boat, or pay people to take care of your lawn.

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