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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-04-06 02:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #4474 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4474 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Genie and Jafar from Aladdin]


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[Project Runway (Afa)]


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[life of pi]


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[Chris Evans]


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[Star Trek: Discovery]


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[Suicide Squad]


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[historian, author, and presenter Lucy Worsley]


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[Good Omens, by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman]















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liz_marcs: Jeff and Annie in Trobed's bathroom during Remedial Chaos Theory (Default)

[personal profile] liz_marcs 2019-04-06 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with this. I always got the sense that Crowley and Aziraphale were asexual creatures that had formed a bond of contentious friendship during their time as agents on earth. And that they both had a common goal of making the sure the good times continued a-rolling, with the "good times" defined as a very much alive earth/humanity.

But it's nice that both Pratchett and Gaiman were perfectly okay with however people wanted to interpret that relationship.

I guess I don't see why this secret is all that wanky. And I think a lot of people on here wouldn't disagree with it (even the A/C shippers). Other fandom spaces? I dunno. I feel like I'm out of the loop there.
Edited 2019-04-06 19:39 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2019-04-06 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Depends on what fandom space you're in, I think. There are definitely some people who'd take offense and consider it homophobic to have the OTP declared canonically not gay.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-06 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
"People who think Aziraphale and Crowley are boning are unconsciously prejudiced against non-romantic male bonds" is kind of a wanky opinion
liz_marcs: Jeff and Annie in Trobed's bathroom during Remedial Chaos Theory (Default)

[personal profile] liz_marcs 2019-04-07 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Eh. The secret is strongly worded, but I guess I can see someone getting frustrated if the thing that turns their crank is platonic friendships and all they see is ship-fic. I mean, the OP was expressing the same frustration with turning platonic M/F relationships into romantic ones, so I'm not convinced they're specifically targeting M/M.

In all honesty, when it comes to Good Omens, I personally think it's a case of "you do you." The relationship is written in such a way that you can read whatever you want in it. If you see a layered friendship, fine. If you see a romantic relationship, fine.

It's a closed-canon, stand-alone piece of work where the authors had no strong feelings one way or the other about how fans saw the A/C relationship. And as far as I know, Good Omens fandom never got wanky over it.

Now if someone, somewhere loses their minds and turns the mini-series into a full-blown continuing series, then all bets are off on the ship-wank front.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-07 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
I get why somebody would be frustrated about their preferences! And I agree that it's ambiguous and open to multiple interpretations. If I disagree with a secret, it's only to the extent that OP is rejecting the idea that it's ambiguous, and calling other interpretations "bleating" based on "unconscious prejudice."

SA

(Anonymous) 2019-04-07 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
If I disagree with this secret it's because of those reasons, not with any secret in general