[ SECRET POST #4475 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4475 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Can I ask why joss is so bad, I mean I herd he cheated on his wife alot but does he have other things that make him such a horrible human being. I guess I am out of the loop I like a lot of his work so I am lost

[(Anonymous)]

where to begin...

well, what's relevant for firefly is that apparently china was a big enough influencer as humans colonized space that they speak mandarin but there are no chinese characters. that's a start.

[(Anonymous)]

Of all things, that's where you start? That's so miniscule. I think Joss and the other writers themselves forgot most of the time that China was supposedly a big influence for all that we saw of it. It was mentioned a couple times and that was it, it wasn't like we constantly saw Chinese aesthetics on the show and they really don't speak Mandarin except for the occasional swear. It was a throwaway idea.

However, I always thought Simon and River were at least half Asian because of their looks and last name, but that had nothing to do with the supposed Chinese influence, I just thought that's what they happened to be.

[(Anonymous)]

Can I ask why joss is so bad, I mean I herd he cheated on his wife alot but does he have other things that make him such a horrible human being.

It seems like a lot of people had started disliking him before the cheating thing broke, and then the cheating thing just sent the dislike over the top.

From what I recall, the main criticisms against him were that 1) his writing has some race issues, 2) he praised this very long article discussing the problems with modern intersectionality in feminism, and 3) people think the way he writes female characters is fetishy? Or something?

Then the cheating story broke and a lot of people took it to mean he was sexually abusing women he worked with and also gaslighting his wife. Personally, I disagree with this interpretation of events.

I also don't have any problem with how he writes female characters, and I thought that article he praised had some very valid points. The only one I really agree with is that Buffy and Firefly do have some issues with race. Mainly, Firefly really should've had - bare minimum - one main character who was Chinese. And the way the Robin Wood + Nikki Wood + William The Bloody + Spike storyline was handled in BtVS wasn't great.

[(Anonymous)]

What the fuck. I never knew any of this. Zoye is THE female role model for me (well, she and Ripley), she is in a central cast and she is a person of color! such a load of bull.