[ SECRET POST #4475 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4475 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I would say his strengths are characters AND also dialogue.

I think Buffy kinda changed they way audiences expected people in media to talk. More unassuming and playfully sardonic. Self-aware but also prone to making up words and accidental innuendos.

It's surreal to watch the MCU movies, especially those with Whedon's involvement, utilized this mechanic as a key part of their appeal.

Those movies would NOT work without the banter.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not thrilled about that, mainly because the "snarky one-liner" thing gets tried on by too many fanfic writers, and was a particularly noteworthy aspect of Cassandra Claire's plagiarism as well. :\

[(Anonymous)]

It's a VERY easy dialogue style to mess up because you as the writer actually have to be witty yourself.

Buffy was so long ago but so impactful, it makes sense we're still poor imitations of it.

The worse MCU movies, which I view going in as basically live action cartoons, for me are the ones trying to go grimdark. The second Thor movie comes to mind. What a drag.

The strength of the series isn't really the CGI or fight scenes, crucial yes, but not the point. It's the characters. It's their relationships. The banter to me always reminded me of how military squads often develop a kind of blase jargon to undercut the tension of their missions.

The snarky quips are to maintain sanity in deadly situations. I love the movies best when after the friendships are built with all the playful teasing, it all falls away when things get real and one of their own is endangered.

They're popcorn flicks, sure, but it works for me. I think they play it well, at least now that they seem to have the hang of it.

[(Anonymous)]

Funnily, Whedon's dialogue really annoyed me in Avengers #1 because suddenly none of the characters sounded like themselves. It was like that episode of CSI that Tarantino wrote and directed. I think I would get.tired of Whedon dialogue really quickly.

[(Anonymous)]

Also, Whedon Cap and Thor are the worst Cap and Thor.

[philstar22]

He doesn't get any of the Avengers right.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but Cap and Thor get it the worst because they're the characters that he least relates to.

[(Anonymous)]

he's the only one who's written wanda right and for all the praise the russos get for their take on natasha they've fucked up a lot of things regarding her but okay

[philstar22]

I thought he did okay with her when she was on Ultron's side. But the changing of sides wasn't written too well. And actually, for all its problems, I thought the one thing Civil War got right was Wanda. Which wouldn't be Whedon. But to each their own.

[philstar22]

Yup, I agree. He does better with his own original creations, I feel. He just doesn't get other people's characters. I agree with the OP that characters are usually his strong suit. But that's when he creates his own. He doesn't do a good job at all with characters when he's adapting someone else's.