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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-04-13 03:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #4481 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4481 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Hobbit]


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[Tim Burton's Dumbo]


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[Lady Gaga in A Star Is Born]


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[Giles Coren, writer and TV presenter]


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[The Dragon Prince]


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[Quicksand on Netflix]

















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(Anonymous) 2019-04-13 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
It sucks to have something you like deleted from existence for eternity.
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[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-04-13 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
is that not within the authors right tho? to be respected?

(Anonymous) 2019-04-13 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT—no. Otherwise published authors, now that ebooks are a thing, could revoke permissions to read stuff thry’d purchasrd, and I never want to go down that road. It’s bad enough that when “buying” most ebooks, you’re actually buying a “revokable any time the publisher wants” license to read them. I work in a public library, and the idea of our shelves emptying out makes me wince.
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[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-04-13 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty sure there is a diff between fanfic writers arsing about on ao3/livejournal/harrypotterfanfiction.net ect and published ebook authors and if there isn't then that isn't the fault of fanfic authors who might want their hermione granger viktor krum or peta's brother got picked in the hunger games shame to disappear into the darkness if they want it to.
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(Anonymous) 2019-04-13 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
If it's posted publicly, no.
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[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-04-13 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean sure if you want to be technical but there is always being respectful.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-13 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
And what about being respectful to the people who read it?

"Oh I don't like this anymore, but fuck anyone who does like it" or "I'm a paranoid little bitch so I'm going to delete everything and fuck everyone who ever once liked my stuff"
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[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-04-13 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
It is a fan site. There are million others available or you can find the source material or just an original book?

I wrote shit when I was 16. Some of it turned out to be problematic in a number of ways. Hell yes I will delete stuff that turned out to racist or sexist or whatever else just because I had not learned better and I would hope those who lost THOSE fics would find better tbh.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-13 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT, but if everyone stopped reading racist, sexist, or otherwise “problematic” works, no one would read Shakespeare. Not that I’m saying someone’s teenage typo and stereotype-riddled fic is Shakespeare, but fic doesn’t have to be perfect to mean something to someone, or for it to be their favorite fic they reread over and over again. Now, with AO3’s “orphan” function, you can disavow work you’re ashamed of without deleting work someone somewhere really loves.
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[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-04-13 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
No one cares about my fic as it stands now. No one loves it. I'm not some heavily followed author. Shakespeare didn't know he was problematic. He thought he was progressive. That sort of argument is derailment. I know, right now, that my fic in the past few years has issues while I the author is around to say sorry and remove it.

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(Anonymous) 2019-04-14 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Or... You can put a huge disclaimer of, "I no longer think like this I was sixteen."

God, you sound like a Tumblrite. MUST BE PURE AS THE DRIVEN SNOW.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-14 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
As someone who doesn’t have a tumblr, will you shut up about tumblr and its denizens for a minute? Tumblr is not a hivemind, it’s a blogging/social media site. And spitting on the users of a site where traffic dropped by, idk, 40% since the official adult content ban kicked off, for their purity is ridiculous.

Most of the pushback against tumblr users I’ve seen sounds indistinguishable from right-wingers whinging twenty years ago about “political correctness gone mad” when they meant “couldn’t beat up gays and call unwedded women whores anymore.” The tiny percentage of tumblr users eating their own for not being progressive enough are loud the same way right wing idiots protesting BLM activists by setting their Nikes on fire are loud.

Every political group and every blogging platform has idiots. Block and ignore them and move on.

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(Anonymous) 2019-04-13 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
That's... an aggressive stance to take on the matter but okay.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-13 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
right, maybe. respect? hardly. I've known many an author to go on deleting sprees in fits of pique, depressive episodes, etc, and then later regret it but reposting is far more difficult than deleting.

authors are not sacred idols whose every whim must be considered more important than the whims or desires of their readers. it's a two-way street and authors can be stupid assholes every bit as much as the readers can. and I say this as a fic author, too. I may hate the ever-loving crap out of this 20 year old Star Wars fic of mine, but people love it and while I question their tastes, I'd rather leave it there for them to enjoy than delete it because I think I'm so above myself.
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[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-04-13 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)

I would claim it is respect enough to think it is our stuff and we can decide to share it or not.

I never said we were important. We sure as hell ain't. Only a few seem to think they can re-write their fanfic and become 'authors' off it ect.

But I think even in the age of the internet people would hope that if they deleted something it could stay deleted even if that is futile. Fandom tends to be respectful, more so than other parts of the web at least. Or so I had hoped.

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(Anonymous) 2019-04-13 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
what the fuck were you even trying to do there
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[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-04-13 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
3 paragraphs of my thoughts and one where my security corrupted it?

(Anonymous) 2019-04-13 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't speak for all fic authors and you should like an entitled little shit.
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[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-04-13 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
If you are talking about me I never claimed I did. I am a crap author in my own corner of crapness. I just don't feel weird if folk down my stuff.

But, easy to call names under anon. Bad thing about this comm

(Anonymous) 2019-04-14 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
This. I look back on my old fic and cringe, but you know what, it still gets positive comments every so often so why would I want to take it down when people are obviously still enjoying it?

(Anonymous) 2019-04-14 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
What about the readers rights?

No but seriously, it's a good lesson in internet basics. If you post it on the internet it exists forever. Whether online or downloaded or printed.
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[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-04-14 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
no one has the right to read fanfic

(Anonymous) 2019-04-14 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
lol ok
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[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-04-14 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
wtaf if anything we're lucky we are not all being an riced but ok lmao?

(Anonymous) 2019-04-16 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
I don't see anything disrespectful about downloading fics. The world won't end. Now, if somebody were to start posting the fic around and taking credit for it... that would obviously be wrong.