[ SECRET POST #4481 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4481 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[The Hobbit]


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03.
[Tim Burton's Dumbo]


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04.
[Lady Gaga in A Star Is Born]


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05.
[Giles Coren, writer and TV presenter]


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06.
[The Dragon Prince]


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07.
[Quicksand on Netflix]

















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 43 secrets from Secret Submission Post #642.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

So I can read it some place where I don't have wifi or a signal or the wifi is on the fritz that day or it's not secure or I would have to pay a lot for it?

Considering that internet fic pre-dates wifi and smartphones, the assumption that no one should ever want to download something off the internet and online fic should therefore be untouchable is kind of silly. Before the internet, there were zines, and good luck editing or revoking your fic then!

I rarely download fics, but when I do it's only via the download button on AO3. Do authors have an option to not allow that? If so, they should consider not activating that button if they aren't comfortable with people downloading a fic.

[ayebydan]

There are many, many ways to get around that. Or just accept that fanfic is not something available to you now in those times.

Those were different times. Where you posted your fic under different conditions.

And afaiaa, we can't stop the downloads at the time.

[(Anonymous)]

Honey. You sound old. I’m sure the authors whose works were handwritten bemoaned the invention of the printing press too because they could no longer control the dissemination of their works.

You have rights as the creator. A lot of them end the moment you make something public. If you don’t want people reading your work, fearing one day you’ll be embarrassed by it, there’s a very simple solution: don’t publish it anywhere.

We collect things that spark joy in us. We’re entitled to happiness. If you don’t want people deriving happiness from your work, don’t put it out in the world.

You must accept you will NEVER EVER have complete control over your work once it is out in the public sphere. This isn’t reposting, this isn’t plagiarism. This is retaining a freely posted work for your own private consumption. It’s legal, and it’s harmless. Move on.

[(Anonymous)]

"Honey. You sound old." <-- That's so condescending and rude.

"We’re entitled to happiness." <-- Not at the expense of others' happiness. It's fanfic, not air or water. You aren't being robbed on some personal level when an author chooses to remove their work from online spaces.

"You must accept you will NEVER EVER have complete control over your work once it is out in the public sphere." <--- This part I agree with, if only because it relates to everything, not just this particular topic. Anything that enters the realm of public consumption, both online and offline, poses the risk of a creator losing their product. This is in part why copyright is such a touchy subject.

[(Anonymous)]

You aren't being robbed on some personal level when an author chooses to remove their work from online spaces.

I doubt you'd be saying the same thing if the author of a print book you really really really liked could somehow push a button and make it disappear.

[ayebydan]

Obviously not because I, and the nonny I would assume would agree, would not have PAID for that?

[ayebydan]

well put ♥

[ayebydan]

I am old. By fandom standards anyway. As nonny below said though, you're being condescending and rude with those first four words so I didn't read the rest. Did see quotes below though. Made me glad I didn't bother.

[(Anonymous)]

Those were different times. Where you posted your fic under different conditions.

The conditions haven't really changed, though. People could find ways to keep their own copies of fic then, and they can do it now. There's no stopping it. The fact that there are arguably fewer reasons to save fic doesn't mean no one ever wants to anymore or that people suddenly have a duty not to. The rules haven't changed.

I believe people can delete or change whatever they want, but putting it out there means accepting that you do not have 100% control over how people experience it. What if you edit a fic but someone doesn't come back and re-read it, even though they didn't download it? The memory of the fic that they carry with them will be the un-revised version, and you can't edit that out of their brain.