[ SECRET POST #4483 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4483 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Are you really comparing white supremacism to Christians saying they're proud of their faith?

[(Anonymous)]

No, I'm comparing people who might say "I'm proud to be white" to people who might say "Godfidence".

There's nothing intrinsically wrong with either of those things.

But context and history matters, and that's why both parties would get more backlash for them than someone going "I'm proud to be gay."

[(Anonymous)]

"No, I'm comparing people who might say "I'm proud to be white" to people who might say "Godfidence"."

And that's an idiotic comparison. 'White pride' is white supremacy.

[(Anonymous)]

The interesting thing is, you are arguing that... because of context and history.

If you use the exact same word, Pride, but say Black Pride, that doesn't mean black supremacy, does it? Gay Pride doesn't mean gay supremacy, does it?

Christians get backlash for showing 'Christian pride' because of context and history. 'Godfidence' has a different contextual meaning, and gets different backlash, from 'Lesbonfidence'... because of context and history.

[(Anonymous)]

And yet normal people don't take 'Godfidence' as being synonymous with white supremacism. Just those looking to be offended.

Whereas someone saying "White pride!" will draw comparisons of white supremacy by everyone.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm... not saying Christian pride = white nationalism. I'm not sure where you got that idea or why you are insisting that's what this discussion is about.

I'm saying the similar-but-not-the-same factors and circumstances apply in how people react and give backlash to them. Because white supremacy has been an oppressive force on minorities for a long time historically in this particular context. Christian dominance has, in a similar-but-not-exactly-the-same-way, been an oppressive force on minorities for a long time historically in this particular context.

They are not the same thing, nor do they have the same goals, but they are similar in the systematic oppression they have put upon people, historically, influencing how statements about pride in the group are received today.

Is that clearer for you?

[(Anonymous)]

Are you really implying that Christianity has not been a major oppressive force in the last 1700 years of Western Civilization?

[(Anonymous)]

If we're really going to be talking about oppressive religions then are you going to call out Islam as well?

Or is that 'out of sight out of mind' because it's a problem elsewhere?

[(Anonymous)]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

[(Anonymous)]

Out of sight it is.

[(Anonymous)]

you really should read that article, it might open your eyes to the tactic you're using

Fuck you

[(Anonymous)]

Islam has its own problems.

Christians have been forcing their religion on non-Christians in all corners of the world for hundreds of years. If you don’t think Christianity is an oppressive religion then your education failed you.

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[(Anonymous)]

We’re really going to pretend that Muslims aren’t oppressing non-Muslims in their countries?

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[(Anonymous)]

DA

No, most people are just not going to discuss it because that has literally nothing to do with this discussion.

Islam has historically oppressed and is currently oppressing people. Christianity has historically oppressed and is currently oppressing people. Communist-state-mandated Atheism has historically oppressed and is currently oppressing people.

The difference is we're only talking about Christianity right now, in this particular current, contemporary, Western context. Except for you for some reason.

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[(Anonymous)]

Since you asked, YES Muslims are oppressing non-Muslims in their countries. But that doesn’t negate the fact that Christians have historically travelled around the world AND FORCED THEIR RELIGION ON NON-CHRISTIANS. And you ask why the poor Christians are being criticized?

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[(Anonymous)]

Great, glad you agree. I assume you're just as critical of the Muslims actively oppressing others as you are of Chris Pratt wearing a godfidence shirt.

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[(Anonymous)]

If you want to discuss Islam that much, you could make a fandomsecret about it if you can find a way.

The reason people are discussing Christianity is because that's what the secret and the whole thread is about. I dunno why it's so surprising to you that people will talk about the original topic that was brought up by OP.

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[(Anonymous)]

delusional fans who stan ugly white man trash are the cancer of fandom

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[(Anonymous)]

You think that didn't happen elsewhere?

The Armenian genocide by the Ottoman empire immediately springs to mind.

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[(Anonymous)]

When did anyone deny the armenian genocide ever happened?

Can we bring the topic back to fucking christians historical shoving their shitty religion down the throats of nonbelievers around the world or are you going to continue to whine “but what about the evil muslims?” like a piece of fresh shit your jesus just crapped out of his ass?

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[(Anonymous)]

"When did anyone deny the armenian genocide ever happened?"

LOLOLOLO are you fucking serious

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide_denial

Holy fucking shit

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[(Anonymous)]

In. This. Thread.

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[tabaqui]

Why are you deflecting and changing the subject and saying 'what about....'? That 99 percent of organized religions have oppressed someone at some point is a given. The discussion here is about Western Xianity and what this particular shirt/statement means in context.

And frankly, that shirt makes me say 'fuck you, you smarmy git', so....take that as you will.

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[(Anonymous)]

Criticizing intolerant Christians in no way implies an endorsement of intolerant Muslims. You ought to fuck off with this

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[(Anonymous)]

They made Jews pay extra taxes in Iraq or Iran for years.