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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-04-15 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #4483 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4483 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-04-16 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
i mean. They kinda tried to make it sound like they were besties. Tony’s whole reaction to Steve protecting Bucky and being all wounded about the “I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS STEVE!!!” falls completely flat and has no emotional weight whatsoever. It wouldn’t have been out of place for Steve to reply “since when???” because whedon never made an effort to show friendship and the franchise was handed off to the Russos and forced to adapt the shittiest event comic that the emotional weight hinges on breaking a decades long friendship when there was no friendship to break so they just tell us no guise they really were friends. (And a million other reasons why civil war sucked but that’s besides the point)

(Anonymous) 2019-04-16 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
i mean. They kinda tried to make it sound like they were besties. Tony’s whole reaction to Steve protecting Bucky and being all wounded about the “I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS STEVE!!!” falls completely flat and has no emotional weight whatsoever.

I only really got that this was the intention when I saw how the more invested fans were responding to CW. Watching CW didn't succeed in conveying it to me. I mean, I understood that they both felt betrayed by the other in their own ways. And I actually found the final fight scene reasonably impactful (thought it felt like the writers had to force it into happening, a bit). But for me, the emotional impact didn't arise from, "Oh no, their incredible friendship! It's broken!" What I got from that scene was more along the lines of Yeats' The Second Coming: Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;[...]The ceremony of innocence is drowned.

But it definitely doesn't feel like they should've done Civil War when they did - if at all. If the MCU decision makers had been confident enough to do two more Avengers movies in which the Avengers were a strong team and good friends, then maybe they could done a CW scenario and gotten the emotional impact they were looking for. But as it was, it just felt flat and a little nonsensical. (And I say that despite the fact that, as a casual fan, I'm easy to please and enjoyed CW well enough.)