[ SECRET POST #4484 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4484 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Chopped]


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03.
[Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse]


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04.
[Jason Momoa in Aquaman]


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05.
[Parks and Recreation]


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06.
[Captain Marvel & Unicorn Store]


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07.
[The Umbrella Academy]

















Notes:

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

wow it makes me super uncomfortable to call someone a coward for failing to stand up to their lifelong abuser

yeah of course he displaces and punches down, that's how abuse teaches you to stay safe

is it, at some point, Luther's responsibility to be an adult and stop hurting people around him? yeah, definitely. is it totally understable to hate him for doing a lot of fucked up counter-productive stuff? yeah

but there seems to be a willful refusal to understand the psychological consequences of abuse still happening for imperfect or insufficiently likable victims underlying this comment and I do not care for it

[(Anonymous)]

Here's the thing: Luthor has zero sympathy for anyone else abused by the same abuser, and that makes it hard to feel for him.

Pogo might have been genetically designed to be a slave and Luthor doesn't give a shit; Pogo is a fucking monster as far as Luthor's concerned. He won't even try to understand why Pogo did what he did for Reginald.

Vanya, locked away for who knows how long, mind wiped and brain washed, drugged and treated like trash until she has a breakdown; Luthor decides to double down and turns a delicate, yet manageable situation into the literal apocalypse.

I'll take his abuse into account when Luthor takes his head out of his ass and stops perpetuating abuse.

[(Anonymous)]

Pogo is also super complicit in abuse/abusive himself, and if he has sympathy for the children he's able to ignore it and continue that behavior. To me, Pogo is the less sympathetic figure because he seems to have a much better grasp on why his choices are hurting people, but he doesn't stop. I'm not sure why you're judging the one but not the other, unless it's that Pogo is soft-spoken and/or dead.

"I'll take his abuse into account when" < this is exactly the thing I don't like. Good victims Vs Bad Victims and only one category Counting is gross. Luthor's abuse doesn't make any of his bullshit decisions okay. But the fact that he's also kind of a dickhead is not a reason to ignore abuse, or act like his dickishness just comes out of nowhere/is an essential part of who he is.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm personally more forgiving of the others' faults because unlike Luthor they know they're wrong and TRY to be better. Luthor never once admitted he was wrong--and he keeps doing dumb, cruel shit. That shit's not cool.

"< this is exactly the thing I don't like. Good victims Vs Bad Victims and only one category Counting is gross. Luthor's abuse doesn't make any of his bullshit decisions okay. But the fact that he's also kind of a dickhead is not a reason to ignore abuse, or act like his dickishness just comes out of nowhere/is an essential part of who he is."

Then Luthor needs to be better. The fact that he refuses to be better makes him the worst kind of victim: the kind of victim who can't or won't break the cycle of abuse. Instead, he strips Vanya of her freedom and psychologically tortures her. It was fucking evil.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I don't particularly like Luther, but I'd take him over Pogo, tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

And I'd take a remorseful, enslaved collaborator over a remorseless jack-ass who never learns from their mistakes any day.

[(Anonymous)]

Personally I'd take Pogo over Luthor because at least Pogo isn't a dumb ass like Luthor is.

[(Anonymous)]

Backstory explains shitty behavior, but doesn't always excuse it. It totally makes sense that Luther reacted to things the way he did! But it doesn't mean he was right to do so, and he should be held responsible/asked to change.

[(Anonymous)]

Luther definitely needs to change! He was in the wrong a lot! But "coward" has such a....weird judgementalism that feels like it's targeted at the wrong things, to me. There's a contempt to it.

[(Anonymous)]

Tbh I agree with you on that. Ignoring his abuse or saying it doesn't "count" is definitely a shitty way of going about things.