[ SECRET POST #4484 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4484 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Chopped]


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03.
[Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse]


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04.
[Jason Momoa in Aquaman]


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05.
[Parks and Recreation]


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06.
[Captain Marvel & Unicorn Store]


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07.
[The Umbrella Academy]

















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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I was pretty sympathetic towards Luthor until he dumped Reginald's sins on Pogo. And I'm 100% sure Luthor would've bowed his head and believed with his whole heart Reginald had a good reason to do everything he did if Reginald was still alive. Luthor wouldn't have the guts to put the blame where it actually belonged, because he was and always will be a coward when it comes to holding his daddy accountable.

Luthor is a hypocritical, moronic, bully and the only thing he knows how to do, like all cowards, is punch down, not up.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Luther was wrong to lash out at Pogo, but IMO that's what it was - lashing out as opposed to displacing all of Reginald's sins on Pogo. As for being certain Luther never would've seen through his father, I don't see any evidence for that, but I also don't have any hostility towards the character the way you seem to.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Lashing out ONCE is understandable, but Luthor "lashed out" at Pogo every chance he got. Like when Allison was injured; Luthor made sure Pogo knew he hated him and didn't trust him. That's not just lashing out, that's legit animosity that Luthor had no intention of letting go of any time soon. He didn't even seem to care when Pogo died.

[(Anonymous)]

lbr luthor only cares about allison, anyone else could die/get hurt and it wouldn't even register to him.

[(Anonymous)]

It is known.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, yeah.

[(Anonymous)]

Uh...I think this is the kind of thing that only sounds reasonable if you have a serious gate owner for Luther. If you don't, it just kind of sounds a bit nuts.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I can't think of anyone Luthor went out of his way to show affection toward except Allison.

He idolized their dad, and I think he at least respected Pogo, but I never got the sense he cared if the rest of his family vanished from the face of the Earth.

[(Anonymous)]

... compared to how affectionate the rest of the siblings were to one another? I don't know. I'm not saying Luther was better. I'm just puzzled as to where the vitriol is coming from because he seems pretty comparable to the rest of the Academy kids when we're talking about dysfunction.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not going to say the rest were overflowing with love and affection for each other, but I saw some genuine caring.

Diego seemed to really care about Grace, he got along with Allison and also respected Pogo. He also seemed to have a soft spot for Klaus, even though it seemed grudging.

Allison at least tried to get along with the others, probably because she hit rock bottom after losing custody of her daughter and was forced to do a lot of re-evaluating of her life and what really mattered, like family.

Klaus's drug addiction makes his feelings harder to quantify, but I think underneath the addiction he wanted to be a better brother.

Vanya is a mess. Just a mess, and I don't even know where to start. But I think she despretely wanted to be a family.

But Luthor? Luthor believed any one of them, except Allison, could have killed their father. He tried to use his super strength to seriously hurt Diego knowing full well he might kill him, because Luthor had to be in charge and Diego was resisting. When Klaus was missing Luther all but shrugged and went about not giving a single solitary shit. He considered Grace nothing but a machine. He un-personed Vanya the second she hurt Allison, and didn't hesitate coming up with a plan to kill her after she became White Violin.

None of them are perfect, but Allison, Klaus, Diego and Vanya know it and try to grow and be better to one another.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

wow it makes me super uncomfortable to call someone a coward for failing to stand up to their lifelong abuser

yeah of course he displaces and punches down, that's how abuse teaches you to stay safe

is it, at some point, Luther's responsibility to be an adult and stop hurting people around him? yeah, definitely. is it totally understable to hate him for doing a lot of fucked up counter-productive stuff? yeah

but there seems to be a willful refusal to understand the psychological consequences of abuse still happening for imperfect or insufficiently likable victims underlying this comment and I do not care for it

[(Anonymous)]

Here's the thing: Luthor has zero sympathy for anyone else abused by the same abuser, and that makes it hard to feel for him.

Pogo might have been genetically designed to be a slave and Luthor doesn't give a shit; Pogo is a fucking monster as far as Luthor's concerned. He won't even try to understand why Pogo did what he did for Reginald.

Vanya, locked away for who knows how long, mind wiped and brain washed, drugged and treated like trash until she has a breakdown; Luthor decides to double down and turns a delicate, yet manageable situation into the literal apocalypse.

I'll take his abuse into account when Luthor takes his head out of his ass and stops perpetuating abuse.

[(Anonymous)]

Pogo is also super complicit in abuse/abusive himself, and if he has sympathy for the children he's able to ignore it and continue that behavior. To me, Pogo is the less sympathetic figure because he seems to have a much better grasp on why his choices are hurting people, but he doesn't stop. I'm not sure why you're judging the one but not the other, unless it's that Pogo is soft-spoken and/or dead.

"I'll take his abuse into account when" < this is exactly the thing I don't like. Good victims Vs Bad Victims and only one category Counting is gross. Luthor's abuse doesn't make any of his bullshit decisions okay. But the fact that he's also kind of a dickhead is not a reason to ignore abuse, or act like his dickishness just comes out of nowhere/is an essential part of who he is.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm personally more forgiving of the others' faults because unlike Luthor they know they're wrong and TRY to be better. Luthor never once admitted he was wrong--and he keeps doing dumb, cruel shit. That shit's not cool.

"< this is exactly the thing I don't like. Good victims Vs Bad Victims and only one category Counting is gross. Luthor's abuse doesn't make any of his bullshit decisions okay. But the fact that he's also kind of a dickhead is not a reason to ignore abuse, or act like his dickishness just comes out of nowhere/is an essential part of who he is."

Then Luthor needs to be better. The fact that he refuses to be better makes him the worst kind of victim: the kind of victim who can't or won't break the cycle of abuse. Instead, he strips Vanya of her freedom and psychologically tortures her. It was fucking evil.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I don't particularly like Luther, but I'd take him over Pogo, tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

And I'd take a remorseful, enslaved collaborator over a remorseless jack-ass who never learns from their mistakes any day.

[(Anonymous)]

Personally I'd take Pogo over Luthor because at least Pogo isn't a dumb ass like Luthor is.

[(Anonymous)]

Backstory explains shitty behavior, but doesn't always excuse it. It totally makes sense that Luther reacted to things the way he did! But it doesn't mean he was right to do so, and he should be held responsible/asked to change.

[(Anonymous)]

Luther definitely needs to change! He was in the wrong a lot! But "coward" has such a....weird judgementalism that feels like it's targeted at the wrong things, to me. There's a contempt to it.

[(Anonymous)]

Tbh I agree with you on that. Ignoring his abuse or saying it doesn't "count" is definitely a shitty way of going about things.