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fandomsecrets2008-09-20 05:03 pm
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[ SECRET POST #624 ]
⌈ Secret Post #624 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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I also did like Winry in the anime, mostly because I did enjoy her platonic relationship with the brothers and the potential for a completely fucked-up relationship with Roy (though the movie frustrated me as far as she's concerned because I hated the way it portrayed her as being oh so hung up on Ed.) But yeah, manga!Winry has just been written and developed terribly. (And yes, she did confront Roy but the focus was more on Roy than on her because it was when he went to yell at the Elrics about never asking for his help, etc.)
I never cared much for Riza, simply because I don't find her character type appealing but I did always appreciate her and what she brought to the series. So to see what she was reduced to in the manga was just disheartening. The whole Lust fiasco pissed me off (not only because of what it did to Riza but because what the hell, was Lust's whole purpose in this series just to die?) So disappointing.
I'll be sticking to the anime, too. Everything I've heard about what happens later in the manga has turned me off from it more and more (particularly Pride. What the hell.)
AND COMPLETELY OFF-TOPIC BUT PIEDMON. *A*
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Oh boy, agreeing with everything you just said about Winry. I think I like her relationship with the brothers far more when it's just platonic. It gives her more depth as a character. And inorite? The Winry/Roy potential for mindfuck was huge but then the movie made them both hung up on Ed and that kind of disappointed me. A lot. (But I still thought the movie was epic.) Ah, I knew she must have confronted Roy, but it's annoying that it wasn't about her parents. Honestly, Roy killing her parents was so much more deep and dramatic than some random Ishbalan (sorry, Scar, but you've never thrilled me either) topping them off.
And pride is just shota bait. Srsly.
what the hell, was Lust's whole purpose in this series just to die?
This. The whole treatment of the homunculi in the manga pissed me off.
AND I AM SUCH A PIEDMON FANTARD IT ISN'T FUNNY AND OH MY LAWD DIGIMON @_@
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The Ed/Winry relationship in the manga makes me see red, good God. It's so badly written. And the platonic relationship between the three of them in the anime was so much more interesting. And she did confront Roy about killing her parents. He was acting cold and distant or something (I haven't watched this episode in awhile, forgive me for not being more clear on this!) and she was like, "Was that what you were like when you killed my parents?!" and Riza steps in and stops her before she can carry on and really call him out. And Scar, to me, has always just been there. To be there. Yeah.
WHO THOUGHT MAKING THAT KID PRIDE WAS A GOOD IDEA? SERIOUSLY. Not just for the shota but for God's sake, if you're gonna have one of the Big Bads be someone we already know and have it be a big mystery and such, at least make it someone we care about. Having it be that kid that appeared once or twice is just stupid. B|
This. The whole treatment of the homunculi in the manga pissed me off.
Basically.
DIGIMON OH MY GOD. I JUST REWATCHED THE FIRST TWO SEASONS RECENTLY. OH GOD, STILL THE BEST SHOW EVER. THANK YOU. ♥
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It's like...I don't even know where the hell Ed/Winry is going in the manga. Seriously. WHAT ARE THEY DOING?! It's like one second they're all lovey dovey 'I will protect you' shoujo style, and the next they're, well, not. It's like the pairing had moodswings or something. Idk. But like I said, I was never really a fan.
Dude, at least you remembered there was a confrontation! (I kind of really wanted Winry to take a wrench to Roy or something equally dramatic/angsty, but I fear Riza might have shot her (...which would open the way for moar drama/angst! I like this plan!)). And yeah, Scar. Yep. Him. That guy. Who..I don't really give a shit about. He's just...yep, there. Awesome. =/ Woo.
Lmfao, that was my reaction! When he was revealed as Pride, I was all 'who's this kid again? Oh, right! I knew that.' Yeah, not really very exciting stuff. Made for fun shoops, though. (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2wq7i9h&s=4)
WHY HELLO THERE ICON! DIGIMON 01 OH MY LAWD I LOVE IT SO MUCH. Srsly. Just looking at this icon makes me feel all nostalgic and ;_______; BEST. SHOW. EVER I AM RAISING MY KIDS ON THIS SHIT.
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I disagree with you on the treatment of the homunculi - the anime explanation didn't make as much sense, and treated the Gate as nothing more than a semi Deus ex Machina to a very large extent. What bothered me the most was that the whole point of the anime was "right that Equivalent Exchange business we kept on about? IT WAS ALL BULL, LOLOL". Which I didn't like. And the thing is that later on in the manga we are definitely seeing the homunculi manifest as characters in and of themselves, and not completely subservient to Father. And what I like about them in the manga is that they are perfectly capable of being pwned by humans, through human ingenuity - as opposed to the anime, where they were treated like demigods, and had to be weakened through all sorts of external elements before humans could even touch them. The futility of humanity in the anime was really darn depressing, for me.
I also like the manga's treatment of both Ed and Al much more than I like the anime's. But then, Roy in the manga is more of a douche, I think, than he is in the anime. And Winry ... while I agree that there were several badly-done and slightly melodramatic scenes with her, I like the fact that we see her living her own life in Rush Valley, and working on herself - and becoming very proactive in the scenes with Scar, Kimblee, and later on. She becomes important for herself, not just as the Childhood Friend, which I felt the anime relegated her to.
Personally, a lot of the plot elements of the anime just seemed more melodramatic, and thus ended up weaker, in my opinion. There were many scenes that it seemed to me they milked for as much drama as they could, and for no real reason. Like the 5th laboratory, and the Nina episode.
I guess I'm trying to say that there ARE some sane manga fans? And while I'm really excited over the new anime, I do agree though that retconning essentially the entire anime sucks. There were a lot of things the anime did that were very good, and it remains one of the best anime series I've ever watched, and one of my favorites. Throwing it away entirely is not fair treatment, imho.
sorry for the tl;dr
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Just dropping by to agree with this sentiment. I loved the FMA anime so much; it breaks my heart that they seem to be retconning the whole thing. ;_;
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