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⌈ Secret Post #625 ⌋

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When did real life ever become part of the conversation? I'm talking about how fandom reacts to the thing they're a fan of. It's got nothing to do with real life.

Do you think people complaining about shipping goggles really mean that fans go around shipping random strangers on the bus? No.

When did real life ever become part of the conversation?

You said: You can love someone very deeply and have no sexual feelings for them whatsoever and Platonic love exists as if they were things that most fans didn't know. I was just taking this claim to its logical conclusion.

Do you think people complaining about shipping goggles really mean that fans go around shipping random strangers on the bus?

Of course not. However, I do think that they make condescending judgments about shippers. You can be annoyed by the ubiquity of shipfic without deciding that there's something wrong with the people writing it.

Well don't. It's called hyperbole. Obviously I know that fandom people who view fancrap as if friendship doesn't exist don't go around viewing real life the same way. I guess, in the interests of clarity, I should have said that platonic love exists in fiction. I didn't know that people had so much trouble distinguishing, because to me the fandom=/=reality line is always assumed.

I'm not annoyed by shippers, my entire involvement in fandom is about shipping, I probably annoy genficcers. It's just true that everything tends to get twisted into something sexual in fanfic. I don't think there's anything wrong with us, but we can, at times, stand to realize that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

I guess, in the interests of clarity, I should have said that platonic love exists in fiction. I didn't know that people had so much trouble distinguishing, because to me the fandom=/=reality line is always assumed.

I understand. However, once you start talking about what a person knows about relationships, it does sound like you're bringing their real life into it. In my mind, there's a big difference between, "maybe these two characters are just friends" and "you don't know what platonic love is". The first one is talking about fictional characters and the other one is talking about the fans themselves.

It's just true that everything tends to get twisted into something sexual in fanfic.

Actually, I think very few people 'twist' everything into something sexual. Most of the shippers I know have pretty strong preferences: they love A/B, but hate A/C, and think that A and C are better off as friends. There may be people who think every single relationship is sexual, but I haven't met them.

I don't think there's anything wrong with us, but we can, at times, stand to realize that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

That's a good point -- I just don't think it has anything to do with 'not knowing friendship exists'. I'd say that it's about getting overly attached to one interpretation and shutting out other possibilities. This is a bad thing to do, even when the other possibilities don't include porn.

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