Woobification is annoying and unfortunately ubiquitous, but honestly I'm more annoyed by this condescending as shit attitude people take towards these "delusional" fans.

How about being a little more charitable? Like maybe, instead of assuming they're dumb and don't know any better, assume that woobifying Kylo Ren is just THEIR jam?

On a side note, I'm really put off by all these actors giving us gentle reminders that villains are villains.