[ SECRET POST #4495 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4495 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

I hate how fandom's become so commercialized. Even collaborate stuff like zines are for profit now and everyone's got a patreon or ko-fi. I get that the economy sucks and it's a symptom of a greater problem, but man.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[morieris]

I can go into Target and see a bunch of cheap crop shirts with a 90's cartoon slapped on it for 20$.


There's no care or thought put into designing any of it.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

... why shouldn't creators want at least some compensation for the time and effort they put into things?

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

That'd be fine if they weren't using other people's intellectual property to gain profit.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Stuff like zines typically aren't making a profit, though. They're just covering the costs of publication, since none of that is free. I have several friends who have worked on zines and none of them actually made any money off it, it all went into getting the zines printed.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

That's the definitely the case in certain circumstances, but I've seen a fair few fanart zines explicitly for profit and geared towards FOTM or juggernaut fandoms. The amount of profit isn't disclosed, of course, but I've seen charity zines with lesser specs donate between 1500 and 3500 bucks.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

I don't mind. Merchandising is not new, and I love the fact that I can find merchandising for stuff that was relatively obscure when I was a kid (like Doctor Who or anime in the US) right there in a regular store, intended for mainstream consumption. I don't actually like owning much merch, but I feel validated seeing it.

I've never had much if the "I only liked that band when they were obscure" attitude towards this kind of thing. As an 80s kid growing up with so many fandoms that had been established before I was born (Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who, Tolkien, Sherlock Holmes, most popular comic book superheroes, a LOT of significant and popular SF&F lit...) and with my own fandom participation being dependent upon adult-controlled spaces like the cons my parents brought me to (there were VERY few kids or teens at cons in the 80s - it was a very different fannish landscape) I was always hyperaware that there was an existing club that I was meery hanging around the edges of. It was very different than what internet fandom would become by the late 90s, where young people could be cagey about their age to participate in adult-dominated spaces, or just create their own spaces, e.g. start their own Geocities site, sign up for their own social media account, or post their fic to an archive for free. (Internet fandom a la Usenet and Compuserve existed in the 80s, but like most kids, I didn't have access to those things, and I wouldn't be surprised if those spaces skewed older because of it.) What I'm getting at is my sense of exclisivity in fandom and sense of ownership over media has always been kind of warped because I've never lived in a fandom bubble, so it's hard for me to care that something has "gone mainstream."

Meanwhile, I have no problem finding essentially unlimited fanworks for free, so the fact that people might have a Patreon, or a monetized YouTube channel, or put out exclusives behind a paywall doesn't bother me. I'm still getting what I want.

Besides, where am I supposed to draw the line between fanworks that should be free and regular entertainment that I should expect to pay for? I draw a pretty hard line with fan fiction, but there's a sizeable chunk of my fannish consuption that consists of YouTube videos that fall under the analysis and commentary categories. (I used to really love critical discussions on message boards meta posts on LJ and such, too, and I still love them when I can find them, but I'm terrible at using tumblr.) That's not fundamentally different than published books and TV specials on literary criticism or media studies topics that people get paid to make. I mean, Lindsay Ellis makes YouTube videos for PBS as well as her own channel, so why would I draw the line and say her own channel shouldn't have commercials or a Patreon?