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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-04-27 09:52 am

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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-04-27 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, I don't like woobification, but if that's what people want, I think I'm coming around to the idea that people should be able to do things how they want even if it seems really strange to me. But when I ship enemy/hero ships (I don't ship Kylo/Rey much at all), a large part of the fun for me is actually making it work. If the villain is woobified, to me that removes a lot of the fun.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-27 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm generally on the "roll eyes and move on to the next thing" side regarding woobification myself, but it does get grating when woobie!X fans act like the woobification is canon and X should be present in scenes and promotional bits centered around the heroes when X is a villain.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-04-27 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh I agree with that. Not canon, not going to be canon.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-27 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
But when I ship enemy/hero ships (I don't ship Kylo/Rey much at all), a large part of the fun for me is actually making it work.

DA - Agreed. Reylo mildly piqued my interest after TLJ, but when I went on AO3 looking for fics, I quickly got discouraged by my inability to find fics that actually felt like the put in the work to make Reylo, well, work.

Even in really long fics, where you'd think there'd be plenty of time to sloooowly build their connection and develop their characters and such, what I mostly found was semi-woobified Ben Solo, and sexy pining right from chapter one.

And that's fine. But it's so not my scene.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-04-27 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. People can write and read what they want, but I like my villains as villains. And if there is a redemption arc, and I do like a good (most important word there) redemption arc, it has to be well-thought out and take a reasonable amount of time and actually work.
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[personal profile] rosehiptea 2019-04-28 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
If people are into woobification then they are and there's not much point in opposing it IMO. But people who think it should be or even is canon confuse me. I don't hate Kylo Ren or even Reylo itself, but it's not like he's a good person or nice to Rey in canon. And yeah, if there were more Reylo fic which acknowledged that Kylo is a lousy person I'd probably read more of it.