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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-04-27 09:52 am

[ SECRET POST #4495 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4495 ⌋

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Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-28 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
I read a tweet that said "JKR really hates fat people, huh," and my immediate thought was how back in the day people pointed out obvious influences in HP from other British children's authors, namely Roald Dahl. JKR's treatment of fat people in her books has nothing on that guy. If people are going to criticize her, they should recognize the male authors she was influenced by and not act like she invented all these British kidlit tropes like the stupid mean fat person.
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Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-04-28 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, but, Dahl does not have nearly the huge fandom Rowling does. I have heard criticisms of Dahl. There should be more because there are a lot of problems in his writing. But it is disingenuous to expect the same amount of criticism as for someone with as huge a fandom as Harry Potter has and to suggest that gender of the author is the only reason for the differing amounts of criticism.
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Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[personal profile] 11thmirror 2019-04-28 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Dahl's been dead for, what, thirty years now? And you don't think Rowling could have considered for herself what messages her writing was sending?

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-28 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
Er... Rowling's a person with free will, not a sponge who must helplessly soak up whatever puddle of tropes she's tossed in. If she absorbed some rather toxic messages while she was trying to borrow Dahl's whimsy and other tasty tidbits of British kidlit, that's on her. She's an adult - an adult who is writing well after Dahl's career and life ended and who's still not making great decisions. Let me ask you... has she apologized for being unduly influenced by those awful tropes?

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-28 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It's kind of funny how the people who are always on about how awful it is that there's like, 4 dumb mean fat people in Harry Potter tossed in among the fat people who aren't dumb and mean aren't equally up in arms about the sneaky mean skinny people stereotype that also pops up in the books.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-28 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you think that, in general, society is equally biased against skinny people and fat people?

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-28 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that damaging stereotypes are damaging even if they are against a group that you, personally, think deserves the body-shaming.