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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-04-27 09:52 am

[ SECRET POST #4495 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4495 ⌋

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Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-27 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
JK Rowling too

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-27 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-27 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Considering people want to axe murder the Russos for the "first gay character in the MCU and it's no-one you'd gues!!! :D :D :D "... uuuuuh no. Disagree.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-27 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah. Dumbledore's reveal wasn't great, but consider how many major characters in children's media were gay 12 years ago.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-27 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a good point, and she's really made up for it by making sure that he's depicted as textually, unquestionably gay in the movies made more recently in a different political and social climate

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-27 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
IRL LOL

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-27 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
There were articles about how Dumbledore wouldn't be explicitly gay in the movies. A homophobic ass can watch Crimes of Grindlewald and come away thinking that Dumbledore isn't gay.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-27 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you're missing the sarcasm in this comment
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Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[personal profile] 11thmirror 2019-04-27 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
And that one just went ALL the way over your head, huh.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-28 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt's gonna need some aloe vera for that burn!

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-27 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
About two dozen.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-27 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Who exactly? I can't remember any.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-27 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, benchmarking from "12 years ago"

Heather Has Two Mommies (89)
Witch Baby (91)
Runaways (03)
Young Avengers (05)
Hero (07)

Probably more if you looked at the booklists for the year. While Scholastic and Rowling were reluctant, other publishers were not.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-27 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Axe murder? More like eyeroll because Disney is overselling it again.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-28 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
I read a tweet that said "JKR really hates fat people, huh," and my immediate thought was how back in the day people pointed out obvious influences in HP from other British children's authors, namely Roald Dahl. JKR's treatment of fat people in her books has nothing on that guy. If people are going to criticize her, they should recognize the male authors she was influenced by and not act like she invented all these British kidlit tropes like the stupid mean fat person.
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Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-04-28 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, but, Dahl does not have nearly the huge fandom Rowling does. I have heard criticisms of Dahl. There should be more because there are a lot of problems in his writing. But it is disingenuous to expect the same amount of criticism as for someone with as huge a fandom as Harry Potter has and to suggest that gender of the author is the only reason for the differing amounts of criticism.
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Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

[personal profile] 11thmirror 2019-04-28 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Dahl's been dead for, what, thirty years now? And you don't think Rowling could have considered for herself what messages her writing was sending?

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-28 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
Er... Rowling's a person with free will, not a sponge who must helplessly soak up whatever puddle of tropes she's tossed in. If she absorbed some rather toxic messages while she was trying to borrow Dahl's whimsy and other tasty tidbits of British kidlit, that's on her. She's an adult - an adult who is writing well after Dahl's career and life ended and who's still not making great decisions. Let me ask you... has she apologized for being unduly influenced by those awful tropes?

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-28 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It's kind of funny how the people who are always on about how awful it is that there's like, 4 dumb mean fat people in Harry Potter tossed in among the fat people who aren't dumb and mean aren't equally up in arms about the sneaky mean skinny people stereotype that also pops up in the books.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-28 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you think that, in general, society is equally biased against skinny people and fat people?

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-28 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that damaging stereotypes are damaging even if they are against a group that you, personally, think deserves the body-shaming.

Re: Secrets (fandom or non fandom)/unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-04-28 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, don't think so. Not if she were a man who behaved exactly the same way. IMO, a male JKR would get even more criticism, especially re: her support of Johnny Depp.