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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-05 12:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #4503 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4503 ⌋

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A non-fandom secret

(Anonymous) 2019-05-06 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who gets dehydrated easily, I'm really uncomfortable with the thought of Muslims not drinking water all day for Ramadan. Fasting is one thing, but water is just not healthy to go without for more than a few hours. Long ago I saw an article that stuck with me, about a high school football player who wouldn't hydrate during practice or games because it was Ramadan, and the question was "is it religious discrimination to bar someone from participating in an activity like that if they aren't going to drink water", and to be honest I would say no; in fact, I'd argue that it's the faculty's obligation to do so.

Secret because "I really think people shouldn't do this religious practice" won't go over well in civilized circles. Especially when combined with "whether or not they do it doesn't actually affect me whatsoever" because then I can't exactly say I have a right to feel this way. I mean, wouldn't this technically be judging what other people do with their own bodies? That's a huge no-no.

Re: A non-fandom secret

(Anonymous) 2019-05-06 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Well, hang on. Consenting adults (and let's give credit to teens, too) should have every right to not drink water during the day if they want. This isn't a "typical" practice, it's a limited-time-period religious tradition. Frankly, first off, it's not really any of your business. Lots of teens (and adults) drink pop all day and not a drop of water, so don't limit your health concerns to Muslims. Dehydration goes beyond them.

If your concern is limited to, should school faculty disallow players for following unhealthy or dangerous food and water intake habits.. I agree, a coach's first and foremost priority should be the safety of their players. But again, unhealthy habits really extend beyond Muslims playing football - how about wrestlers who starve themselves for a week or two to make a certain weight class? A coach needs to make that judgment - if a Muslim player looks unwell, they need to be benched.

You should also keep in mind that the Koran is somewhat practical. If you are ill, on your period, even traveling or in weird circumstances, you are not only allowed but encouraged to break your fast. (You can choose to make up the days some other time in the year). It's surely a practice in asceticism, but there are specifically guidelines that give allowances for not being well. So if a Muslim athlete began to suffer from dangerous dehydration, s/he would basically be obligated to drink water and stop fasting for the day.

Re: A non-fandom secret

(Anonymous) 2019-05-06 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
You're general point is correct. But a drink is a drink. Someone isn't going to be dehydrated just because they drank soda instead of pure water. In fact, you get a lot of the water you need from food.

Re: A non-fandom secret

(Anonymous) 2019-05-06 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
There are Muslim athletes that observe Ramadan and they do think about these things. There are ways to be smart about it. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/shireenahmed/athletes-fasting-during-ramadan

Nobody wants anybody to get sick or injured, which is why it's not obligatory for anyone who is sick, elderly, pregnant, nursing, or traveling.

Re: A non-fandom secret

(Anonymous) 2019-05-06 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Not healthy to go a few hours without drinking water? Dude, you are massively exaggerating. Millions of Muslims don't drink water during daylight hours every year and are perfectly healthy. I myself am not constantly drinking water throughout the day, either.

Re: A non-fandom secret

(Anonymous) 2019-05-06 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
My understanding was that they're not supposed to participate if it has a negative impact on their health, because causing damage to their body is against their faith.

Re: A non-fandom secret

(Anonymous) 2019-05-06 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I always wonder how those people cope when they're infesting northern countries with long daylight hours.

Re: A non-fandom secret

(Anonymous) 2019-05-06 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
SA

Inhabiting!!!! Not infesting. Fucks sake, Autocorrect

Re: A non-fandom secret

(Anonymous) 2019-05-08 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
That's some autocorrect... Anyway! Some go for a set amount of hours, and some follow the daylight hours of a country with reasonable hours. Source: former coworkers. They do the same if Ramadan is during our winters where daylight might spare a wave at us as it pass us by ;P