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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-09 07:37 am

[ SECRET POST #4507 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4507 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
From what I've heard, ITA. It's a really weird point, but the thing that sticks in my craw most is Steve using Mjolnir. Like, just no. No. Fuck off.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Really? Why? So many people have used it in the comics.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Because, as a non-American who is Scandinavian, it comes across as a nauseating example of the usual American nationalism.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that isn't the dumbest reason I could of thought of, but it is up there.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh huh. God, I'm so fucking bored of Americans. Done with this place, I am out.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
That makes sense to me

I just saw it and thought that literally any other character would have been more interesting there

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
+1
Ugh, and of course all the american's are offended.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
No one is offended. It is just stupid. Are there Scandinavians out there that think Marvel Thor is some kind of Scandinavian idol??

(Anonymous) 2019-05-10 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
not an american, babe

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
As an American, that's a really good point I haven't thought of. I naturally want to defend the move because I really like Steve Rogers as a character and TBH that was a really well executed moment as blockbuster/superhero movies go. However, yeah...I'm reminded that often American blockbusters get help from US government agencies or tax write offs/grants from the US Army. TBH a lot of Americans don't realize how much the US government's fingerprints are on media we consume specifically to make the US government look good.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-10 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Ehhh, Steve Rogers is more of a hero because of who he is as a person (loyal, stands up to bullies and shitty people, generally pretty pure of heart) than a symbol of America, because it's not WWII anymore. Tony is probably more accurate as a brash capitalist who on one hand (formerly) profited from war without thinking too hard about it, but on the other still has some ideals.

Haha, Hulk and Iron Man's backstories don't make America look good. Actually, Cap was a traumatized veteran introduced to the modern day by being lied to by the government. Captain Marvel should have been Missing In Action and not assumed dead either.


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(Anonymous) 2019-05-10 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
If the army was involved in the MCU, it wasn't obvious - compared to the Transformers movies, which got a ton of money from the government and basically fellated the armed forces in every movie.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-10 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
Ah yes, truly an insidious display of the systemic oppression America inflicts on Scandinavia.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-10 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think they're driving at that, so much as, yet again the Obvious American gets the glory of something non-American in culture. (Like. Why couldn't it be some other big player from somewhere else?)

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-10 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
From a fellow non-American, sincerely, get over it.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-11 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
You do know that's not how the Mjolnir from myth works, right? The whole "only worthy people can wield it" is strictly from the comics.

spoilers

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
While I think Thor's character was done badly in A4, I loved that Steve used Mjolnir. And that Thor was like, "I KNEW IT."

Dammit Steve IS worthy.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed, 100%. I've wanted it to be Nat since forever and I'm bummed we didn't get that but regardless, Steve basically had to do it.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-10 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
And that Thor was like, "I KNEW IT."

This is the part that made it work for me. And it was a great bit of characterization and character development for him. When Steve nearly picked up Mjolnir in AoU, Thor looks scared. Here he is years later, genuinely joyful at his friend's ability to wield Mjolnir. He's down and out, he has nothing, and yet he still has that much magnanimity and spirit in him.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
AH SHIT :(

Sorry for not tagging this as spoilers. Wasn't thinking.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I kinda agree about this. It was weird. I don't feel like Steve is more worthy than many of the others.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2019-05-09 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Everyone’s Worthy of Thor’s Hammer: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xVuawqOZCUU

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
This is my issue with it. And yeah, I know it’s comics canon, but still. Ultron-era foreshadowing or not, I don’t like it in the MCU. In large part because the implication that he’s more worthy (and thus better) than the other characters makes me bristle.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-10 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
But he's totes not the Golden Boy of canon. Not at allllll.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
There is more then just captain America in comics and he was worthy because he risked it all for his friends and family and people he lost not because he's American also Thor will be in gotg 3 and he has had a great evolution of his character from vain to to worth to sad to hero to hero again also there is captain Britain in comics and many others who have been worthy to hold it but really going on with something fiction because he's captain America is imo a huge waste of time . And one of the dumbest reasons to hate on a character