[ SECRET POST #628 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #628 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[xanykaos.livejournal.com]

We really need those sorts in Watchmen fandom.

Oh for the love of pants...

I'm sorry, but...elitist much? Our Fandom is so good, so clean, so wholesome...

I promise you, there are those sorts of fans in the Watchmen fandom already. Betcha if you type it into devArt, you'll find cute little chibis of Rorcharch and Night Owl cuddling up and being adorable, eating ice cream or something. Or worse.

You acknowledge that the crazies will move on. So why does it bother you? Why does it even affect you? That's the bit that I don't get, really. I just ignored the badfic and had a good chuckle over the really stupid secrets that popped up and moved on.

I don't know, maybe I got over this sort of thing long ago because my SRS BZNS thing was LotR and...well...I dealt with the Orlegolas fans and the Adorable-and-Stupid-Pippin fans and the ZOMIGOSH Frodo'sblueeyesaregorgeousandheandSamaretotallyscrewinginMordorteeheeNekkidFrodo! fans as well and just learned to take it in stride. And honestly, I think it was much harder on the LotR fandom (because try finding new fanart that isn't movie-based, man), whereas the lasting impact on Watchmen fandom will be considerably smaller. At any rate, it didn't ruin the fandom. It left a few hundred crazies in it, but hey, the cool people are still there.

Crazies don't detract from a fandom. Angries do.

[alouette-sparra.livejournal.com]

You know, I bet if you looked at my devArt faves, you'd see a lot of chibis and silly things. Why? Because they're funny and cute. I'm all for funny and cute. I don't have a problem with funny and cute. I don't even have a problem with cute. I'll look at art that isn't anything I believe works as a pairing if it appeals to me visually. I'll read fic that isn't anything I believe works as a pairing if there's a semblance of grammar and characterisation. If that makes me an elitist, then so be it.

You acknowledge that the crazies don't bother you. You acknowledge that you've moved past SRS BZNS. So why do we who take fandom a bit more seriously bother you? Why do we even affect you? That's the bit I don't get, really. I just tend to ignore the people who can't understand how I think and have a good chuckle over the really stupid secrets and commenters and move on.

Crazies make me roll my eyes. Angries amuse the Hell out of me.

Let people blow off steam in secrets without getting jumped on as a ZOMG ELEEETIST, for crying out loud. I know I'd post something like that just so I don't snap at the next innocent little newfen that comes along squeeing about the Joker. I'd MUCH rather see someone post something like this as a secret or behind many a friend's lock than read some flame to a Mary-Sue fic that I dragged myself through because, damnit, the potential is there if this is someone who will accept well-meaning critique and not BAWWW about how mean I am. I really don't get the sort of people who would express the dislike to a person's face, so to speak.

Heck, some of the snarkiest people I know behind closed doors then go out and offer the most amazing advice and support to new people. It's a way of letting off steam so we don't snap at them for something that is probably really stupid to be annoyed about, but when it's the same thing day in and day out it eventually rubs the wrong way. Just like most cashiers will tell you that they hate the line, "Oh, if it doesn't scan then it's free!", fen who've been around a while will admit they hate the line "so, here's my new ficcie about *character* and my OFC *name*! I hope you enjoy", but the best of them will grit their teeth, plod through, and say, "Hey, you've got a good concept here, but if you tweak this, this, and maybe flesh that out a little, you could have an even better fic!".

The only reason I'm still debating this with you is because you seem like a fairly reasonable person, and I can't figure out why there's such a disconnect in logic going on here.

[xanykaos.livejournal.com]

I love chibis and silly things. I just figured that maybe adorable slash of Rorsharch and NO having a tea party with fluffy animals or what-have-you may be one of the kinds of character mishandling and woobification that the old skool fans are dreading.

Well, to quote Catherine Tate, "I'm not bovvered." Or rather, I'm still not taking it as serious business. I just think it's silly that there's already whiny wank about something that hasn't even happened yet.

These fangulls have not shown up yet. They will, quite likely, though in less force than they did for the Joker, I'm sure. But for now, they are not here with appreciably greater presence than they were a month, two months, a year ago, And yet...people are already angry at them. At a group of fans who, as of the moment, don't even exist yet. We've already had, what, three secrets about how annoyed people will be when it happens.

So...if the newfen are going to be making stupid for, oh, say, three/four months after the movie comes out, and the angry-folk are going to grump about how stupid the stupid is for the entire three/four months, plus the preceding three/four months, and will probably trickle off about a month or so after the larger part of the stupid has died down (as with the "I'm sick of TDK/Joker secrets" outnumbering the "I'd hit the Joker" secrets towards the end)... which one am I going to be more tired of first? That's me.

Closed doors is one thing. F!S is not technically closed doors--it's posted for all the world to see.

Crazies make me roll my eyes. Angries amuse the Hell out of me.

Well, then, we have polar opinions on a matter. Goodness, the internet may crack.

Just like most cashiers will tell you that they hate the line, "Oh, if it doesn't scan then it's free!"

*headdeskheaddeskheaddeskheaddesk*
bad memories...such bad memories... in ten different languages...


There is no "disconnect" in logic. There's your opinion and there's mine. Just because I don't agree with your feelings does not make me illogical.