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⌈ Secret Post #4510 ⌋

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The memes are basically true, though.

QE keeps trying to promote the idea of being "ur true self" but all the people and issues they choose, somehow coincidentally end up having their true selves be more mainstream/conventional than they were before, leading to the same old same old solutions. Even the ones who are explicitly gay/lesbian just want a nice normal family, or the het women who start off preferring to be masculine who transform into their TRUE FEMME SELVES, etc.

Which isn't a bad thing on its own. Or a reflection on the people themselves. Most people want to be "normal," that's a common thing and why conventions exist.

It is, though, a reflection on the "nice and safe" people the showrunners make a deliberate choice to do episodes about. Nice and safe is well, nice, but it gets boring hearing the rhetoric about TRUE SELVESsss INNER PERSONALITIESsss SHIINE that all, it JUST SO HAPPENS, turn out to be as mainstream and inoffensive as they can possibly be.

That's why it's formulaic, more than anything the Fab Five themselves do. It can't NOT be, because the Fab Five never get to tackle a problem that isn't, "how do we make this person's life and style more conventional than before?" because the show never chooses to feature someone that wants something """weird.""" Like, lemme know when they get a nice stay at home mom that wants to be a poly butch tattooed biker domme and they make HER over, but until then their true self rhetoric just makes me lol.

I think the show itself is nice fluffy fun even if it's formulaic, btw.

Really? I would not call, washing your face and wearing clothes that fit you going "mainstream".

....well the memes are an exaggeration of the things the Fab Five actually do, but they have a good point in that it's usually the same or similar things in each episode.

I apologize but I have doubts this is a good faith response if thats really all you got out of the tldr post.

The majority to the people they help don't seem to know the basics of self care/cooking/cleaning. The 5 are not going to be teaching them advance stuff. Frankly, if they people they help can master basic habits, that is a win.

Sure. Like I said it's not the Fab Fives fault that the show is formulaic. They do the same things over and over because the people who are chosen for the show all have the same problem every time: they want to be more conventional or feel normal, help! But the show IS formulaic for the reasons given.

OP was worried that people would think QE is formulaic and I'm saying they do because it is. And provided the basic reasons why it can't not be.

I don't really know what your stance is in regard to that, as you aren't disagreeing with any points I've made.

I feel like you're conflating "functional" and "conventional" in a damaging way

And having binged lots of the show in the past two weeks and been disappointed every time I got the vague hope that hey, maybe THIS episode will finally have the person end up remaining, for example, super-butch-but-functional-and-stylish-and-put-together-butch and having them end up, sigh, yet again, superfemme or lipstick androgynous, no, I don't feel I am.

There are many, many ways to do functional! Nonconventional styles can be functional! Having the video game nerd guy find tasteful shirts with subdued game insignia or little color-palette nods to his favorite hobbies or animes that don't scream WEEB WITH A BODY PILLOW was a total possibility... that they didn't go with at all. Functional and attractive and openly geeky styles that still look great exist! They didn't go with those. They pretty much always go for the straightforward conventional way.

The show makes a show of REVEALING TRUE SELF rhetoric, but lot of the time, it feels like the person had more character beforehand. It's not really a show about making people look like better versions of their original elves, but rather more conventionally attractive versions of themselves, if that makes sense.

tl;dr nope

This.

Yes, a lot of the styling is more mainstream than people go in with, particularly on the interior design end, but they're mainly talking about people who can't do the basics. And they always do seem to try to reflect the person's personality and tastes as much as possible.

I don't disagree with any of that, but if they wanted to not be formulaic, they could easily find someone who also can't do the basics but has goals of being something other than conventional... but they don't.

Example given, the nice frumpy lady who doesn't know how to self-care but wants to be a badass biker poly leather domme who also wants to learn to cook to host munches. Why not? She knows just as little of the basics as the rest and has just as much to learn. That won't ever happen, though, because they don't really have people on the show whose end goal, personality, or tastes is to be nonconventional in any major way. The same lady going in the reverse way, a leather chick who Just Wants to Be Normal, however, could easily happen.

They're the ones who choose what people to feature

IAC with your assessment of it. I can see why they've done it that way though. They're trying to break ground in the South and safe and conforming is probably the way to do it.

Yeah, I can understand why they do it that way too. And the point they're going for is clearly to normalize all sorts of people in a metaphorical way and also in a literal way by making them be pretty conventional toward the end. It's just that they all always go in the same direction. Which is no fault of the Fab Five themselves. And it's great that they showcase all sorts of different people.

Personally, I LIKE the show well enough. It's fun and fluffy and light with some touching moments here and there. I just personally wish they'd stop with the whole Real True Self thing, like everyone's real true self is conventional.

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