[ SECRET POST #4511 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4511 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm gay and frankly still baffled on what Rowling did wrong at all. I think it was awesome that she announced that Dumbledore was gay, and I have no reason to doubt when she said she had envisioned him that way when writing him. She's not obligated to stick in a gay romance, there's no quota or something. Would it have been nice if HP had some in-text nods to gayness? Sure! But it's not somehow homophobic that it didn't, and it's still a net positive that Rowling went on record with Dumbledore's sexuality.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it was morally wrong but I think it was a little chickenshit, and it bothers me when people overstate how much she actually did do.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, it's like a fic writer headcanon - it's there, in the writer's head as a character's background, and it doesn't /need/ to be in the text.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, a major character in a hugely popular series being gay is exactly the same as a character preferring black coffee in a fic. Yep. Totally.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt
It's what writers do, doesn't matter if it's fic or a book.

[(Anonymous)]

Brainstorming ideas is the least significant part of the creative process. The vast majority of those ideas never leave the notebook, and artists shouldn't get credit for stuff that they never develop.

[(Anonymous)]

For the new movies, it's not "sticking in a gay romance", it would literally just be stating that the existing romance, you know, existed. One memory/flashback shot of a kiss. A single line saying "I loved him". She doesn't need to retroactively insert a sex scene into the 6th Harry Potter book, but we're making new media now and she's running out of excuses.

[(Anonymous)]

I think this is a good point as well - no one is obligated to have queer romances, but if you have a character you say is queer and in a queer romantic relation ship, and you consistently choose not to depict that, I think it's reasonable for people to ask questions.

[(Anonymous)]

THIS.

[(Anonymous)]

They made orgasm faces while intertwining hands, I mean... I just don't know how else you can interpret that.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh my god you guys they made ORGASM faces.

[(Anonymous)]

w h i l e

i n t e r t w i n i n g

h a n d s

Just bro things, right?

[(Anonymous)]

TIL straight people never hold hands. Amazing. Must be super gay.

[(Anonymous)]

Butthurt shipper or homophobe with their head up their ass? We just don't know.

[(Anonymous)]

Nayrt but it seems weird that the person arguing in favor of more explicit, unambiguous gay representation would be homophobic. Very strange insult.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, the ship sucks, but I'm gay as hell and want to see gays on screen in a major franchise just one time.

[(Anonymous)]

Nice try, troll. Why would homophobes be unhappy that Dumbledore and Grindlewald’s relationship is only implied and not shown or mentioned in the movies?

[(Anonymous)]

Can you link these orgasm faces

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. People are praising Korra writers to high heavens for doing the same thing. Why is it different when Rowling's the one doing this?

[(Anonymous)]

It seemed pretty obvious they were in love in the movie. It was obviously intentional. I agree it'd be cool to see an on-screen kiss but it's somehow a homophobic thing that it wasn't included.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not "wrong" so much as "tired." Tired of writers, directors, actors, and artists dropping gay headcanons on the interview circuit knowing that it will never go through the editorial and production process. Tired of being good enough for TV, comics, and novelizations but not for the big screen. Tired of fans making excuses for why Rowling held back when fucking Marvel beat her to it in a middle-grade imprint no less. Tired of Disney/Marvel/Lucasfilm saying "wait for the next movie" or "they're already here, just not explicit" for most of the last decade. Tired that we're still talking about Dumbledore and not the better characters and better stories.

[(Anonymous)]

This.