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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-15 06:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #4513 ]


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(Anonymous) 2019-05-15 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
You could just ignore it though

(Anonymous) 2019-05-15 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
OP's examples sound more fun, though. Sometimes it's useful for young people on the internet to get a gentle check.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-15 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Talking to kids on the Internet is just like having a teenager in real life. They think they know everything and they are never wrong, *you* are wrong. There is no "gentle check" here. All that response would prompt is a roll of the eyes over an old person with mortgage.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-15 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to be honest, it just seems ridiculous to me, and it's not going to be a check on anything

But fun is fun, I guess

(Anonymous) 2019-05-16 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, it's important to have some public pushback on this BS. The sooner kids learn that wandering up to random strangers and demand that they cater to them is likely to be met with "LOL no, fuck off," the wiser they'll be. And it's good for others to witness this happening.

What the people in that screencap are saying is totally tame and funny compared to the elaborate death threats some of these kids spew out when they see a pairing that makes them ~uncomfy.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-16 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-15 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I just think it's funny that I've been in fandom longer than some fans have been alive. People who say things like that are just little shits.

Don't bite the hands of the experienced writers that feed you free fic, kids.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-15 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't really encountered this. Maybe my fandoms just don't attract teenagers? I think the best response would be no response.

I've encountered a lot of twenty- and early thirty-somethings who are appalled at the idea of interacting with anyone under 18 in case NSFW stuff gets mentioned.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-15 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Rightly so

(Anonymous) 2019-05-15 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
If someone's not mature enough to lie about being 18, they're not mature enough for my A/B/O bondage fiction.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-15 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol, this

(Anonymous) 2019-05-16 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Loling in real life at this truth.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-15 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Something I don't understand is why it seems so much more prevalent now for teenagers to whine about adults in their fandom. I honest to god don't remember it being a thing when I was a kid. I hate to play the 'back in my day card'... but when I was younger, nobody questioned the older fans; it was the younger ones that were scared shitless that they'd be chased out of the fandom if anyone found out their real age.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-15 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Likely a spillover from fandom purity culture. After making a big stink from saying that shipping minors is bad, it was just a short jump to saying that interacting with minors is bad and suspicious.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-16 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Fandom skews a little younger now, especially with the prevalence of platforms that don't normalize punctuated sentences and the fact that all you have to do to be *in fandom* is have an opinion now and then.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-16 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
It's the largely unmodded aspect of the current web. Back then minors had to be good, or they'd get kicked out of most communities/groups/forums and such. Now it's based on tags and largely unmodderated.

Also, I'd note that the current fandom climate means the more of an asshole you are, the more attention you get. It can be from making snappy comebacks or dressing up your bullying in social justice talk. The comments about purity wank are another thing. They use a blanket assumption of adults in fandom being creepy and go from there.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-16 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
It's not like we have any actual statistics that indicate it actually is more prevalent. We're comparing this forum's hazy recollection of The Old Days to this forum's anecdotal experience of what people on Tumblr are saying.

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Also, just generally, there are more people.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-16 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
When I was a kid my fannish participation was all offline because I had no access to Compuserve or Usenet or whatever. In-person it's clear what people's ages are, roughly, and when you're the youngest person in the room you don't come to the conclusion that fandom is not for adults. Even when I started in online fandom, it was clear most people in those fannish spaces were older than me.

I think internet fandom skews younger now due to a greater percentage of teens having internet access than once did. However, it's not just online fandom. Conventions I've been to in the past 20 years skew a lot younger than they did in the 80s and 90s. I don't know if it's Harry Potter or anime getting more mainstream in the US or what but fandom as a whole definitely has a lot more youth participation than it did a few decades (although I think that may have been the pendulum swinging and there may have been more young people in fandom in the 60s and 70s).

(Anonymous) 2019-05-16 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'll admit that I'm too old to even care.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-16 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
I wish it were true that at a certain age you stop liking stupid shit, but you never grow out of it. Everyone just wants to have fun with no responsibilities. That is something that never changes.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-16 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
I find it hilarious that most of the fandom morality police is 13-15 year olds who go on about fandom purity and shaming everyone that doesn't fall within their safety bubble. They are the ones that twist everything they don't like into somehow ~problematic~.

It's really true what they say about generations trying to cancel out the previous ones. One is strict and puritan the next is wild and free. The cycle goes on. The kids now are no different than the pearl clutchers who want to burn non-christian books. The next batch of kids will soon cancel them out.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-16 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't personally experienced this, but if I ever do, I'd like to remind the dumb kid that they too will get old at some point and when they find themselves at 28 and still enjoying fandom things hopefully they'll realize what dumb fucking idiots they were.

The great thing about time and aging is that literally no human can escape it.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-16 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
someday, when they're 30, they'll get told by some 15-year-old that they aren't allowed to be in fandom anymore and they'll think to themselves "...this fucking brat!" lmao it'll come full circle, you'll see.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-19 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
It's funny to me that kids in fandom act like this when the thing that they're fandoming about is likely made by someone in their late 30's and older. I just ignore them and interact with the people who don't make a big thing about fandom age.