[ SECRET POST #4516 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4516 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[The Secret Etiquette Of Lady Takashima]


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03.
[Avatar: The Last Airbender]


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04.
[Harry Potter]


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05.
[Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice]


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[Stephen Fry as Inspector Thompson in Gosford Park]


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07.
[Dragon Age/Dragon Age: Origins/DA4]


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08.
[Queer Eye, S03 E01 "From Hunter to Huntee"]


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09.
[A View to a Kill]











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Comments

[thewakokid]

I have to argue against one or two points:

Accessibility is not about easy modes. That is something the Journos are pushing to make it seem like their calls for easier games are actually to help disabled people.

Accessibility is things like subtitles for the deaf, the ability to turn off flashes for epileptics etc. I can get behind that stuff. Toning down the challenge is not an accessibility thing. it's a "This thing wasn't made for my skill level and that IS NOT OK!"

Additonally I have to fix one point about your characterisation of the argument:

"These people are very much of the opinion that this games shouldn't be accessible easy, because THEY enjoy it being super difficult and a fucking achievement to even finish."

If you'd said that, I'd have actually agreed with the sentiment, but again, it's not an accessibility thing, and it's not about all games. it's about these specific games being explicitly about the challenge and reward. I'm pretty ok with DMC having an easy mode. I don't mind the creative mode in mine craft.

Think of it like reading a book. A book like lovecraft. I find his style to be... difficult to follow. I find his word choices to be... esoteric. I do not enjoy his works so I do not read them. I do not get to complain that HP Lovcraft books need to come with a less wanky option. People who like lovecraft like the wanky. And sure they could still enjoy the original text even if I got my dumbed down version printed, but I don't have any right to expect them to print that for me.

[(Anonymous)]

"That is something the Journos are pushing to make it seem like their calls for easier games are actually to help disabled people."

Fuck off, I am a disabled person and I agree "DA JOURNOOOOEEEEEZ." Take your sexist, hardcore, "I need to stroke me e-peen" dickish attitude and shove it, I'm so fucking SICK of your paranoia and conspiracy theories. Easy mode is for people like me whose hands don't fully work. Fuck the hell off, you absolute fucking wanker.

[thewakokid]

I'll level with you, I don't believe this is sincere, but on the off chance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tso8u4OJLuI

Might I suggest that certain games are not for you? Not because of your disability but because you are not of the level where you can overcome? There is no shame in that, there is no insult intended, it's just a fact. Rhythm games are not for me, as being white leaves me with the crippling lack of rhythm.

[(Anonymous)]

nyart

Don't get me wrong, this is amazing, but how does that prove anything? That's one single person, not every gamer who happens to be disabled.

[thewakokid]

It disproves the idea that games need to lower the skill threshold to let people play

If you care about something, you can do it. If you don't care to put in the effort this chap did - And I really don't blame you, I may never be that skillful - the solution, I think, is to walk away and not fuss about it. Not to demand that you shouldn't have tp put in the effort in a game that is all about, almost exclusivly about gaining reward from effort.

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, but all this video proved is that THAT particular guy could do it. Not that anyone, even those with the same or "lesser" disabilities, can do it if they just care enough and put in enough effort.

I was going to write more, but checking the rest of the thread I get the feeling we wouldn't really get anywhere, so... agree to disagree?

[thewakokid]

sure