[ SECRET POST #4521 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4521 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I don't see how Victorian it is, really.

[(Anonymous)]

having the characteristics usually attributed to the Victorians, especially prudishness and observance of the conventionalities

I think that's an apt description of the 2010s but obviously YMMV.

[(Anonymous)]

It's hard for me to get my head around the prudish and conventional parts, mostly. Not sure what you're referring to.

nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

there's a huge pushback in fandom spaces against any kind of "immoral" content that most people outside of it would call prudish.

somebody says that they have trouble wrapping their head around that then i'm gonna assume that either they've never seen an anti or they agree with them and don't see why it's conventional rather than revolutionary

Re: nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not saying that I agree or disagree with them but I definitely don't see how it's motivated by conventionality, let alone prudishness, or any kind of Victorian concept of propriety.

Re: nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Prudish: Having or revealing a tendency to be easily shocked by matters relating to sex or nudity; excessively concerned with sexual propriety.

Anti's and the Victorian era are/were both very concerned about sex and morality surrounding all things involving sex. Simple as that. I think your over thinking this.

Re: nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

They're both concerned about sex and morality, sure, that's true as a general statement, but the actual nature of those concerns - and the moral framework underpinning them - are totally different.

Re: nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Sure, but the effect is the same. Victorian censorship was motivated by a) over-emphasized terror of sex as a uniquely life-ruining force, and b)a belief that all fiction should teach clear, simple, and obvious moral lessons, lest the ~vulnerable be ~misled.

Most of the purity wank I see on Twitter and Tumblr these days has exactly the same motivations.

[(Anonymous)]

Usually and INCORRECTLY attributed to the Victorians by people who know nothing about the 19th century and have read too much Lytton Strachey.

[(Anonymous)]

It's really more like the 20th-century Hayes Code for movies: a long list of things that you either can't show, or if you do, you must show them as "bad" in the most heavy-handed and obvious way possible. Because movies must be moral lessons that teach that crime doesn't pay, or else you might be leading innocents astray.

Barf.