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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-24 06:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #4522 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4522 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Matrix]


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[Mr Meaty]


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[Roxanne from A Goofy Movie]


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[Arya/Gendry]


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11. [WARNING for abuse, etc.]

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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #647.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 01:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Not caring about a neo-Nazi getting run over ≠ not caring about two teenagers getting gang raped. Yes, rape is generally viewed as being more evil.

And once again, nobody seriously suggested that the girl driving go free. They just weren't too upset over losing a guy who ran on a campaign of "with Jews, we lose."

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
So they're just teenagers now, huh?

No, no, no! They're members of the Klan and the Klan aren't human beings, remember? I thought anyone who hurt them deserved humanitarian rewards and your complete, utter indifference?

Okay, then! We established you're dumb, lazy and a sociopath, but you just confirmed you're a hypocrite too. But I suppose it's good your inhumanity has limits; you're still garbage, but not 100% garbage.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
"KKK are people too!" This is why I'm having a hard time believing you're actually black.

And yes, for a lot of people rape or sexual-based crimes are considered to be more evil (look up "Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil"). It's why Cersei's walk of atonement bothered me more than Dany dropping a building on her did.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 05:37 pm (UTC)(link)
If they aren't people why do you care if they get raped?

Are you confused, sweetheart? Doublethink can do that. Especially to weak-minded people like you.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I never said they weren't people. I just said I wouldn't cry if they died.

You probably think Dany deserved to die, but that doesn't mean you'd support Jon raping her.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, you did. Your lack of empathy and your shocked confusion when I say they are human screams you believe otherwise. Hence, you are a sociopath.

Just embrace your inner garbage person, my hypocritical little Sweetheart!

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
So you do have a problem with Jon killing Dany? Or Ollie, for that matter?

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't like Jon killing Olly.

I know why he did it, and in-world it was legally permissible, but I don't like kids getting murdered.

As for Jon killing Daenerys? Well, she was about to wage war on the entire world and burn millions, so within that narrative I have no problem with Jon stopping her. He saved a lot of people.

On the other hand, the groundwork for her genocidal behavior wasn't established well enough for me to accept she wanted to conquer the known world in the first place.

So, my feelings are complicated.

Hey! Stop changing the subject!

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Would you feel the same way about him raping them?

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
See, that's the thing.

This isn't about comparing one crime to another. That wasn't ever the point; that wasn't the question being asked. The question being asked was: why do you dehumanize people? Indifferently and hypocritically condone their murder and suffering until they're subjected to horrors even you can't stomach.

Like you said: rape is considered the worst crime anyone can commit, it's worse than killing to some people, so it was easy to corner you with it. You couldn't admit to being for rape, even if it's non-humans like the KKK being raped. You'd give up any and all moral high-ground (like you had any to begin with).

And you obviously weren't going to change your mind about not caring if they get burned to death, because you're incapable of admitting when you're wrong.

It was too easy catching you in a trap of your own sociopathic hypocrisy.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Except you yourself said you're okay with Jon killing certain characters, but I'm going to assume you wouldn't defend him raping them. So clearly you think there are cases where killing is accepted, but not rape.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Hopping from one topic to another isn't going to help you, you know?

It's fine. I'll play along.

It doesn't matter if I agree with Jon killing Daenerys. It doesn't matter if Jon, for some reason, raped her. Either one of those things happening to her would not be a good thing. But neither was ever the point.

The point is: Daenerys was a human being.

I hate what she wanted to do to the world. She needed to be stopped, but that doesn't mean I have to dehumanize her. It doesn't mean I couldn't mourn her death and regret it had to happen. Why? Because I have a soul.

You have no soul.

I can't put it more plainly.

It's why you can't grasp that even when bad people die it can be a sad thing. Hell, it's not like anyone expects you to take flowers to their graves, or hate their killer, but the least you could do is hope the pain and suffering stops there. Instead you shrug, say whatever, and you don't care if anything changes for the better. As far as you're concerned everything can stay hopeless and cruel, and more killing is just fine with you.

You. Have. No. Soul.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
You defended Jon killing Dany.

You won't defend him raping her.

Why is that?

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-29 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Because rape never has to happen, Sweetie.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-29 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
So you admit rape is more evil. Thank you for proving my point.

I also think it's funny you have more sympathy for the KKK and neo-nazis than you do for Dany.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-29 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
So now we're debating what's more evil? Rape or murder? Damn. Not only do you like moving goal posts, but you also like mindlessly jumping from one unrelated topic to another.

I sound white?

You argue like a republican.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-29 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
Says the person sympathizing with nazis and kkk, and mocking feminists.

And you're the one who brought up neo-nazis being gang raped because I said I wouldn't be upset over a kkk convention burning down,

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-29 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
So now there were Nazis in your make believe KKK convention? You know your post about that still exists? You can't just pretend Nazis were in it all along.

Yeah, I did, to confirm your lack of intellectual honesty and empathy.

And you did not disappoint.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-29 11:18 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, so if neo-Nazis were in the building you'd be ok with them burning down?

And you yourself said rape was worse and never justified, whereas killing could be, which kind of defeats your argument on how you can't be more bothered by the former.

You're still the person mocking feminists and speaking up for the KKK and neo-nazis.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-29 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't have to respond to the rest of your post because you just proved you don't read mine.

I literally have a post up-thread about putting bullets in the back of Nazi skulls.

That's twice. I was kidding about you being too young to understand the world around you, and it turned out to be true. I was being snarky calling you lazy, and that turns to be true too.

The sad part? I've read every word you've written here. Your idiocy is fun to go over; it's like watching a zygote try to hold a conversation with a nuclear physicist.

You've disappoint me, Sweetheart.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-29 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Then why were you upset over people not caring about the neo-nazi getting run over by the drunk driver?

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-29 02:57 pm (UTC)(link)
You aren't going to deny you're not reading my posts? Wow. You really are quite shameless.

Wait a minute... Combining the topic of one post with the topic of another, rearranging their context and facts as you see fit? Huh.

Just like a republican. Have I been conversing with a republican this whole time? If I'd known that I would have approached it way differently!

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-29 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I read your posts. That's why I'm questioning why you were upset over people being apathetic about a Neo-Nazi getting run over when you talk about putting bullets in their skulls.

https://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/2017622.html?thread=1021809238#cmt1021809238

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-29 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Good for you!

Finally putting in the work!

I wasn't upset about the Neo-Nazi being killed, I was upset because people like you think the woman who killed him did nothing wrong. If it were up to sociopaths like you she'd be back out on the streets playing drunken Russian Roulette in her car. She should be treated like the criminal she is, not applauded for taking out the trash.

Because the world got lucky she only killed a Neo-Nazi.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-29 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Once again, nobody said she did nothing wrong or that she shouldn't get in any trouble. They just weren't upset about a neo-nazi getting run over.

"Because the world got lucky she only killed a Neo-Nazi."

Which is exactly the type of stuff the people you're condemning were saying.

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