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[ SECRET POST #4523 ]

⌈ Secret Post #4523 ⌋

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[The Sound of Music]

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(Dead by Daylight)

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[The Mummy Returns]

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[Aladdin]

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[Criminal Minds, S05E23 "Our Darkest Hour", S06E01 "The Longest Night"]

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[ReBoot: The Guardian Code]

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I roll my eyes hard at people who consume canons with historical settings and go “Yikes, that guy’s racist.” or “Ugh, another flat earther.” Like, obvious much? Of course racists exist in historical times and of course someone born before Columbus or some other navagator proved the earth was round would think earth is flat like paper.

Actually, that's a HUGE misconception. Medieval people never thought that. Current Flat Earthers took a joke seriously.

I meant to add that I otherwise agree completely.

it's true, humans knew the earth was round in BCE Greece.

however, I feel like the misconception as it exists now is probably due to weird cultural things getting out of hand way before Flat Earth was a thing. like, I remember as a child in the 1980s having it basically understood, through media perhaps, that prior to Galileo everyone thought this and then I got to school and learned that no, that was wrong. for all I know a joke in Looney Tunes decades ago got twisted in a monstrous game of telephone until everyone and their mother thought it was true.

I think it goes back at least to the 19th century sort of Whig historians, where history is presented as an inevitable march of progress from ignorance to knowledge. It fits into that narrative really nicely to believe that there was this massive ignorance that had to be dispelled - you make yourself look better by making your predecessors look worse. I think there's a specific book by Washington Irving, of all people, that often gets pointed at in particular.

Yeah, I'm not sure what people expect.

I'm not sure I agree with you but actually I'm also not sure I know what you're objecting to here? Like, the fact that dislike racist characters, or what exactly? Honest question

Not OP, but it reads to me like they're more annoyed by people watching something that's dated or a product of its time (or actually set in historic settings where these things might occur) and then being surprised or upset that these attitudes are occurring?

I'm way more pissed off by people who don't know dick about history inserting bigotry that DIDN'T exist in the period.
"Bah!" Says the vaguely middle-class man in Beauty and the Beast (2017). "Women learning to read! What a ridiculous notion!"
"Come again?" puzzle the, like, hundreds of salonnières of 17th-18th century France.

"Everyone in colonial America thought that slavery was fine!"

Well, I mean, actually, extremely not the case at all.

Like... there was a whole-ass war about it? So... WTF?

[yeah, yeah - 'the war wasn't about slavery it was about states' rights, and if we repeat that enough times, maybe we can pretend we're not massive racists!']

In general, there are some very misguided views on sexism and racism that never existed in historical times in the way people think.
Sexism: There is that huge misconception that women have been completely and utterly oppressed troughout all of history. Which is bullshit. Women had a lot of control over their households because they, for the most part, were the ones who looked after the financials. And... sure, women couldn't vote. But people like to forget that most men couldn't vote for the longest time, either.

And racism... sure. It existed. But not in the way it does today.

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