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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-27 06:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #4525 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4525 ⌋

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ninety6tears: nyota - yellow profile (trek: uhura)

[personal profile] ninety6tears 2019-05-28 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Tony isn't picketing Steve and Bucky's wedding in Civil War, he's having an ethical disagreement with Steve that is about a lot more than his friend up until he finds out Bucky killed his parents and feels he can no longer trust Steve. He's not against Steve being protective of a friend (whether that friend is Bucky or himself!), it's just more complicated than that.

Then again, people who think the point of Civil War is for the viewer to take hard sides without considering any nuance frustrated me too ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

More understandably, people could just resent Tony as a character because he gets a lot of screen time that Bucky and Steve could have gotten.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
if they wanted people to actually see moral nuance in CW, they shouldn't have made all the political parts so fucking dumb

"both sides have a point" kind of falls apart when both side's "points" are nonsense, so then you just go with who you think is being less of an asshole

OTOH if you want people to take arch nonsense seriously, you can't dress it up in grounded real world practicalities

Either have the UN in it and have some vague approximation of possible logical implementation, or find a different front for the opposing philosophies you want to give them, that has less stuff you can be obviously hideously wrong about

also maybe don't have the supposedly intelligent owner of a megacorporation be the one arguing for signing a contract without reading it and hoping to change the hard parts later

(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
+1
ninety6tears: horny helmet loki (loki)

[personal profile] ninety6tears 2019-05-28 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
Cool.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-30 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
The crossed-out part is why I didn't even bother going to see CW, or any of the films that followed. If you're not even going to TRY, why should I bother?