[ SECRET POST #4526 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4526 ⌋

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[fscom]

05. https://i.imgur.com/vdyXcZ2.png

[(Anonymous)]

100% agreed, the best solution to a problem with canon is to just aggressively ignore it and I love properties that do so

[tabaqui]

I love this so much.
And hell - this how I navigate the MCU daily.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes! This! I agree wholeheartedly.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, the canon doesn't need to come up with some kind of alternative explanation, canon can just flat out ignore whatever it is for ever after. Easy peasy.

[philstar22]

This is what I've always done in the MCU. Civil War never happened. Huge chunks of Ultron never happened. And now only parts of Endgame happened.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm honestly surprised that large parts of MCU fandom has so little ability to do this - surely they can learn from comics fandom where it's the only way to maintain any kind of character continuity at all?

[(Anonymous)]

This, I think, was the thing that finally broke through the absolute wall of salt and rage that my friend was going through over Endgame. As a longtime Trek fan, I was able to tell her about all the shit that fandom just like... collectively deleted, lmao. Sub Rosa? That episode doesn't exist. A good chunk of the first and last seasons of DS9? Nope, doesn't exist. Nemesis? Does not fucking exist.

This isn't a denial thing, either, it's just-- when you have so much canon, as MCU also does, there's no reason on earth why you should have to take every iota of it into account, especially when it's not particularly good or contradicts prior canon in an egregious way. It's fine. Just forget it happened and move on.

Plus, there's always the deus ex machinas you can employ. In Trek's universe, you've always got Q or the Mirror Universe. In MCU, the ending of Endgame opened up the multiverse. So now you've got a full-on canon-based excuse to do whatever the hell you want, lmao. Go nuts!

[idran]

This whole thread is making me feel like I'm somehow doing Trek fandom wrong? I accept the goofy stuff, I don't get mad at it; I acknowledge it's silly as all heck, but I don't treat it as not having happened either. :P

Maybe it's because I'm mostly attached to the novel microfandom within the Trek fandom, and some of the neatest stuff (Forgotten History out of Miri and the Vedala, the extended strife between Klingon HemQuch and QuchHa' out of the retrovirus, the A Time To... series and Titan out of Nemesis, basically the entire Enterprise post-series book line out of that awful finale) came out of the goofy stuff.

(And what's the big deal about Sybok? He's just a v'tosh ka'tur from before there was a name for that. :P)

[(Anonymous)]

I think the reason MCU fans have trouble doing that is related to waiting years b/w "episodes" and bc a lot of old time trek fans are monofans. It's the only game in town!

[sparklywalls]

Way ahead of you. I've decided most of the last 2-3 years in the MCU didn't happen so I'm ignoring it.

[(Anonymous)]

I read a fan theory which said Sybok was such a powerful telepath he created the idea in Spock's mind that he was his half-brother.

[(Anonymous)]

Trek canon itself tends to do the ignoring for you with some stuff, which makes it easy as a fan to ignore those things. As far as I know, Trek TV/movie canon (the only Trek canon that's canon) has *never* referenced Sybil since, at least not in any way that matters. I can see how the MCU might make that harder by continuing to make certain things relevant. We already know the next Spiderman movie will reference Tony being dead. Endgame isn't going to be a Final Frontier situation. Sorry folks.