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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-06-01 03:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #4530 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4530 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-06-01 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm? Steve very clearly has a character arc that doesn't go backwards until the last 5 mins of Endgame that make no sense.

He becomes disillusioned with the government and that is carried along through the rest of the movies. He becomes more comfortable with the future. He learns to go after things he wants.

When does he say, "Whoops! People died"?

(Anonymous) 2019-06-01 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
When does he say, "Whoops! People died"?

All those deaths in Sokovia and Tony/Natasha/Rhody said they need to own up to their mistakes. Also after the Thanos snap that could have been prevented by just destroying the stone earlier on and not in front of Thanos.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-01 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Literally, none of that is "Whoops! People died". Steve was fine with owning up to mistakes. He was NOT fine with how the Accords were written and pushed thru. Frankly, considering how nobody abides by them, it doesn't seem like anyone likes how they were written. Including one of the main proponents of it. Seemingly the only outcome of the Accords was that it allows the government to arrest anyone without due process and send them to a black site.

He also didn't like Ross blaming all the deaths that happened in previous events on them. As if the deaths in New York were their fault.

Also, why should anyone but Tony (and maybe Bruce) have to own up to the deaths in Sokovia. It was THEIR fault it happened. Steve and the others told them Ultron was a bad idea.

Not sure how you can blame Steve for not seeing the future and murdering a loved one just in case. What if Thanos had never come and they had killed Vision for no reason? That seems like more of a "Whoops!"

(Anonymous) 2019-06-02 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
Let's also remember that the deaths in New York could have been higher if (1) Cap hadn't instructed the first responders to put up a perimeter & evacuate civilians, and (2) the World Council nuclear bomb hadn't been shoved in the portal by IRon Man. Ross blaming the Avengers for the deaths was disingenuous.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-02 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Also it's not like the Avengers could have prevented the attack from happening in the first place. SHIELD was the one that dropped the ball there.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-01 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I always wondered who would have taken the fall if Wanda didn't redirect that explosion and Cap and the people on the ground died instead?

(Anonymous) 2019-06-01 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
That is the one thing that always boggles my mind. "Wanda killed all those people in that building."

But...there were way more people on the ground that would have died instead.