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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-06-03 07:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #4532 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4532 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-06-03 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
'Wholesome fluffy BDSM'. What a time to be alive.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-03 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Wholesome fluffy BDSM is fine and even good

(Anonymous) 2019-06-03 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Bondage, Discipline, Sadism, Masochism... and Fluffy.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-03 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-03 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Right? Yes, sadism and masochism, immediately what I think of when I think "fluffy and wholesome".

(Anonymous) 2019-06-03 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Two people have matching and opposite kinks, understand each other in ways people who don't share those kinks can't, enjoy themselves in a kinky way, then cuddle lovingly afterward.

How's that not wholesome?

Sadists and masochists aren't like whipping each other 24/7, that would be super awkward

(Anonymous) 2019-06-03 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

A lot of kinksters would side-eye 'wholesome fluffy' material being attributed to the scene. The term is a direct contradiction of BDSM for some people; BDSM is not supposed to be wholesome and fluffy, but rather an outlet for the exact opposite. By making it wholesome and fluffy and ultimately 'more palatable' for others, it risks sanitizing and watering BDSM down.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-04 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Ykinmk

(Anonymous) 2019-06-04 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Alright, Suzy.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-04 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Sure. Those kinksters can enjoy their nonwholesome BDSM, and OP can enjoy their wholesome BDSM.

I'm not saying it must be wholesome. I'm only pointing out that, unlike AIRT and above seem to be think, it is certainly possible for it to be, and certainly to have that be the case in fic.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-04 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I can see this. Upon thinking more about it, I suppose saying that 'wholesome fluffy BDSM is a contradiction' could be argued to be a form of gatekeeping and admittedly I might be defensive about the topic seeing as I keep seeing a push online for more 'loving/tender' BDSM erotica in the face of shaming the more 'brutal' material that doesn't focus on 'healthy' relationships.

I guess as long as everyone can have the space to enjoy whatever realm of fantasy they might be interested in, it's all good.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-04 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for that. :)
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I’m calling in the expert

[personal profile] feotakahari 2019-06-04 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
http://pervocracy.blogspot.com/2012/08/playing-light.html?m=1

“Kinky snobbery isn't just irrational, it's dangerous. When your guideline stops being "what will make me feel good?" and starts being "what will prove my sexuality is genuine?", you're liable to do things that don't make you feel good. You're also vulnerable to manipulation from people who try to convince you that if you were really kinky you'd XYZ with them, or people who say you're not having "real sex" because they want to rush you into intercourse. And there's the danger of skipping negotiation and safewords (or worse, not taking safewords seriously) because you don't think a certain type of light play is "real" enough to need them.”

Re: I’m calling in the expert

(Anonymous) 2019-06-04 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
That link gets thrown around a lot without regarding the second party in question.