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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-06-24 06:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #4553 ]


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(Anonymous) 2019-06-25 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Or is it somehow worse because they're German?
Well. Yes. Yes it is. Mostly because using holocaust imagery for shock value is toeing a very thin line between just bad taste and being illegal here.
A lot of non-German bands' holocaust and Nazi imagery gets censored here as well (same goes for certain movies, video games and comics).

(Anonymous) 2019-06-25 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
So, shock value imagery about a shock value issue is wrong? I don't think we get _enough_ shock value information about Holocaust. People forget very fast - I work in a holocaust museum and people get very displeased when I remind them about how it actually went, in detail.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-25 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
It is when it's done for the sole purpose of generating outrage to increase the visibility of a product you're selling.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-25 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
it wasn't the case, though

(Anonymous) 2019-06-25 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Only it was.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-26 10:23 am (UTC)(link)
Wow you've made your argument, I'm convinced now.

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2019-06-25 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, I understand where you're coming from in the sense that you are a part of the society they are trying to provoke and whose censorship they want to push. Of course it's not for you. (: But I don't agree with the censorship and silence about this topic, to be honest, and therefore appreciate this aspect of the provocation. It's a fundamental dimension of art, take or leave.

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2019-06-25 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
They are not provoking just to provoke, they are provoking to sell something. And that's not anywhere near that ~pure art~ that you are trying to allude to. And I'm fairly certain you don't live in Germany if you think censoring tasteless imagery is the same as silence about a topic. There isn't a lot of silence when it comes to this stuff here.

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2019-06-25 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I didn't express myself correctly. With silence I mena censorship about them. I don't agree with the untouchability of this subject for artists. And of course they want to sell something. A song and video about their relationship with Germany, including how complicated it is that everyone is always up in arms about what they do. Every artist wants to sell something.

I actually do live in Germany, but I'm not German (just married to one) and I can imagine my social circles and yours vary with how we're willing to approach the Holocaust.